Posted on 01/08/2017 5:45:52 PM PST by Gamecock
Thank-you God Bless.
It is by the precious blood of Jesus that was shed on the cross is THE REAL perfect paw of liberty of the Lord, not 613 laws in the Torah.
Accepting the 10 Commandments since it is part of the Torah means you observed it.
I obey them and I wonder why do you try to debate me?
Lots of Precious Moments Bible covers around.
Be sure to stomp on them while chanting "Evil! Evil!" before throwing them in the fire.
Accepting the 10 Commandments since it is part of the Torah means you observed it.
I obey them and I wonder why do you try to debate me?
Correction: Law.
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When someone posts falsehood that could lead lurkers to destruction, I post the scriptures that refute it.
Its not personal I assure you. You have been one of my favorite FReepers over the many years here, and I have no desire to diminish you.
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The problem many have is that they mistake “belief” as the apostles preached it with simple intellectual belief in the truth of those statements. But John raised that standard much higher in his first epistle, to doing the things he did for the same reasons that he did them.
That is a much higher level than most will ever be willing to mount, thus the narrow path.
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Be careful of a secret gospel. Salvation is by faith (belief) alone! We show our faith by our love for one another, and by loving God. We should keep his commands, not to be saved, but as proof that we are.
John 6:44 “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
1 Cor 12:3b "and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."
We confess because we ARE saved, not in order to be saved!
Salvation is God's work alone, and he gave us to Christ as an inheritance.
Ephesian 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
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Not the kind of belief that you support!
Satan has that level of belief too.
John’s first epistle is the standard. He lays it out in logical fashion. “Belief in” someone is as John described it, and nothing less.
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“Belief” is a standard of living, not an intellectual position.
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1 Peter 1:2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:
If you are a believer that Jesus is LORD and Christ, the you were chosen, predestined, and are already glorified by God. Note the sequence here: 1-forknew 2-predestined 3-called 4-justified 5-glorified, all before you ever heard of Jesus!
Romans 8: 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
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We are not in a position to define, nor identify who is chosen, and that will never be an appropriate belief to lean upon for personal justification.
Matthew 7:21-23 is for those that think they are chosen.
We have but one course to justification: Live as he lived.
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Romans 10:11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Beware that you are adding to the plain, obvious reading of scripture at your own peril!
The very definition of a works salvation!
Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
And, what if the will of the Father?
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Learn from Jesus:
John 6:28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
Do not twist the scripture to meet you doctrine, pull you doctrine from scripture!
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>> “The very definition of a works salvation!” <<
Complete nonsense!
Obedience is not “works.”
The Law of Works is the commandments of men that Yeshua chastised the Pharisees for.
If you have removed 1John from your bible, you are without hope. If you have removed Romans ch 2, again you are without hope. If you have expunged James very wise epistle, again you are without hope.
You are seeking an intellectual path to salvation, but the narrow path of Yeshua is paved in obedience.
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Here is another for you to ignore:
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Please quote 3 scriptures that show salvation is by any other means than belief on Jesus, and let's reason this through together. If you can only post your opinion sans scripture, it is just that, your isogetical opinion.
1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
And from James, another proof salvation is solely from God:
James 1:8 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.
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You’re sound-biting for your salvation???
Study the word! Don’t stretch anything beyond its context.
Solely from God? - Everything is solely from God.
Sound bites don’t save, they just give the uncommitted a false sense of security.
Yeshua said plainly “He that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved.”
Hard to endure if you go on vacation at the beginning.
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