Posted on 09/16/2016 8:56:16 PM PDT by ebb tide
I am personally grateful that Dr. Lamont engaged in no impropriety such as ad hominem attacks in addressing Dr. Morris.
Do these people have any idea how much they sound like the Pharisies that Jesus used to berate for adding their own laws to the simple Law of Moses? They bring a woman whom they have caught in the act of adultery to Jesus. What does Jesus do? He says let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Then he starts writing in the sand and one by one the Pharasies leave until there are none left but Jesus and the woman. Jesus asks her if there is anyone left to condemn her? She says no and Jesus says neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more.
How can this woman go and sin no more? She has to get married to one man and stay faithful to him. When a sin is forgiven a sin is forgiven.
It has been my experience that the first marriages are often mistakes. It is the second marriages that are actually blessed by God. At least that is the way it is in my Bible Study group. I guess we are lucky we aren’t Catholic.
Um, I dunno... Maybe simply stop fornicating?
She has to get married to one man and stay faithful to him.
No: Return to her husband and remain faithful to him. (This assumes that she was an adulteress in the sense of "married, but having relations with someone other than her husband").
When a sin is forgiven a sin is forgiven.
But it doesn't allow you to continue sinning.
Regards,
Because she was an adulteress, the man may divorce her and marry another with all the benefits of the first marriage, ACCORDING TO JESUS...
And that rule was to Jews under the Law...
We are not under the law as Christians...We are covered by grace...There is no sin in a second marriage, or a third...
Are you also not under the law as Christians regarding abortion? Are you still covered by grace? Is there no sin in the second abortion, or a third...?
Thirdly, it seems you only believe in, at the least, Nine Commandments.
Since my SISTER introduced me to my husband (after I had said NO twice) I KNEW he was the man for me. My sister knew me and what I needed and wanted.
So, I was LUCKY in my sister. He wasn't a Catholic but that was okay.
I don't think that you are lucky if your idea is that first marriages are "often" mistakes. I would wonder where your prospective couples' parents, families and friends are to tell you about said bride or groom.
SOMETIMES people DO NOT learn from their mistakes. Only witness the multi-marriage-divorce route in Hollyweird.
Henry VIII made "marriage-divorce-remarriage" an Olympic sport. Non-Catholic Christians DO have that option to keep trying for "Mr./Ms Perfect."
There is a FReeper here who WAS a Catholic but her/his marriage failed. S/he divorced. No problem so far. But, s/he remarried and now 'crusades' against Catholicism.
It's not your/anyone's LUCK that is in play. It's their COMMON SENSE and VALUES. It's not rocket sense...just ETHICS and MORALITY.
Life is so short...and now s/he lives in sin. His/her "new" faith, a Protestant denomination that allows for marriage/divorce/remarriage, doesn't condemn what Jesus SAID was sinful.
"If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the Lord. Do not bring sin upon the land the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance" (Deuteronomy 24:1-4).
“So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate” (Matthew 19:6).
God realizes, though, that, since marriages involve two sinful human beings, divorces are going to occur. In the Old Testament, He laid down some laws in order to protect the rights of divorcées, especially women (Deuteronomy 24:1–4). Jesus pointed out that these laws were given because of the hardness of people’s hearts, not because such laws were God’s desire (Matthew 19:8).
Google it; it's all there.
It's not only a Catholic ideal, it's a CHRISTIAN ideal.
So, since you are a Christian...
Do you still feel "lucky"? Well, DO you, PUNK?!
OOOPS, sorry, fell into my "Dirty Harry" mode. Did NOT mean it. :o)
Jesus gave two Comandments in the Renewed Covanent with His believers: 1 Love YHWH and Him only. 2 Love your neighbor as yourself. He also made it clear that children were very high on the list of neighbors. Jesus said that from these two came the Law and the Prophets.
Jesus also gave His believers a “helper” in the Holy Spirit dwelling in each of us to help us with particular situations. This is what is meant when someone says that we are under Grace and not the Law. It means the Torah has been written in our hearts. It means one has been born again in the Spirit. It means one has a personal relationship with Elohim, The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
If you can detect the apostasy of the Roman Catholic Church, then you are likely a true disciple of Jesus Christ. Read your Bible and pray for guidance on what you can do about it. Remembering that the answer may be nothing, because this is the way it will be at the End of the Age.
I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not kill.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.
You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.
Are you also not under the law as Christians regarding abortion? Are you still covered by grace?
Christians are not under the law regarding anything...
Those commandments are superseded by two others...Love God with all your heart and love your neighbor...Do you love your neighbor??? All your neighbors??? What is the penalty for not loving your neighbors???
So is it fear of hell or punishment that keeps you from supporting abortion???
So you consider “christians” to be outlaws and free to do anything?
Is not your own child your “neighbor”? Why would you condone killing him in the womb?
So apparently, from both your posts, you two only believe in two commandments, not the Ten Commandments.
That explains a lot considering y’alls posting history.
Make life a lot easier for you, doesn’t it?
That's the whole point.
And the husband --- her one-and-only husband ---has to be faithful, too. He either has to be reconciled to her, or remain single and celibate out of faithfulness to her. At least, that's what the Christian Scriptures teach.
Tbis is actually enlightening to look up, if you want to get it from Jesus' perspective:
See Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:9, Mark 10:11, Mark 10:12, Luke 15:18.
No divorce. And if you remarry, it's adultery.
This, then, became the practice of the early Church:
1 Corinthians 7:11-13
"But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife."
You say you’re not Catholic. But you do believe in the New Testament?
He says it 4 times in the Gospels. Shocked heck out of the Apostles.
Strong's Greek: 3430. μοιχεία (moicheia) -- adultery
Jesus says that the exception would be if the original union were in itself sexually unlawful [different word: porneia.]
Strong's Greek: 4203. πορνεύω (porneuó) -- unlawful sexual intercourse [as distinguished from moicheis-adultery]
This is not some distinctively Catholic thing. All of Christendom understood it this way until quite recently, based on the very words of the Gospel. It's difficult, but we're stuck with what He said.
Whoa....what happened to no graven images??
If a believer is following those two commandments the Ten are being followed.
That is soooo Old Testament.
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