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"Adultery as a venial sin"- and other absurdities of defending the indefensible Francis Doctrine
Rorate Caeli ^ | September 15, 2016 | Dr. John Lamont

Posted on 09/16/2016 8:56:16 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: Gamecock

Explains all those graven images of you know who catholics claim they don’t worship.


21 posted on 09/17/2016 5:40:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

The Ten Comandments have been engraved in my heart by the Holy Spirit. The Ten Commandments are the only basis for human law and government that will result in a just society.

But most of all I believe that Jesus Christ was totally revealed in the Tenach and that the New Testament records the fulfilment of his first coming and reveals details of His Second Coming. And that He is coming soon.


22 posted on 09/17/2016 5:48:46 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Please look at my home page. Then look up for your redemption draws near.


23 posted on 09/17/2016 6:00:42 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: ebb tide
So apparently, from both your posts, you two only believe in two commandments, not the Ten Commandments.
That explains a lot considering y’alls posting history.
Make life a lot easier for you, doesn’t it?

Yes it most certainly does...I am amazed that you don't get that...If you follow the 2nd of those commandments you are following the 10...The 10 Commandments are not OUR Law, they are our schoolmaster; teacher...

The penalty for failure has been removed...Jesus paid that penalty, once, for all, for all time...

When I go about my daily life I don't even consider the 10 Commandments...They are a burden and they put a person in bondage...

24 posted on 09/17/2016 6:09:48 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: SubMareener; Iscool

I never did care for what either of you two “believe” in.

So it would be beneficial if the two of you talk amongst yourselves; I don’t have the slightest interest in your heresy.


25 posted on 09/17/2016 6:13:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ealgeone

So you love your neighbor’s wife as you love your own?


26 posted on 09/17/2016 6:13:59 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: rollo tomasi
Jesus mentioned something about not to worry about what goes “into” your body, but what comes “out” concerning the Law.

Naw, has nothing to do with the law...It has to do with the real condition of the heart...

Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

27 posted on 09/17/2016 6:15:12 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Dear iscool, you are mistaken about Jesus supposedly OK'ing divorce. He says divorce-remarriage is moicheia.

No I am not mistaken...Jesus says if you divorce your wife it is adultery UNLESS the divorce is due to fornication with someone else while you are married...

It has nothing to do with you finding out your wife was not a virgin when you married her...

Besides this rule applies to those under the Law, not Christians under grace...

28 posted on 09/17/2016 6:28:09 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ebb tide

Just mark the thread Catholic Caucus and we will leave you alone. Otherwise we will continue to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.


29 posted on 09/17/2016 6:29:40 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: ebb tide; Salvation

If that’s how you understand it we’re gonna have to go back to ground zero. At least Christianity isn’t dropping parts of the 10 Commandments like Roman Catholicism. See salvation’s earlier post.


30 posted on 09/17/2016 6:30:00 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SubMareener

Last time you saw a Catholic Caucus thread, you tried to get around it and you reposted it as your own. How did that go?


31 posted on 09/17/2016 6:33:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; SubMareener
1 Corinthians 7:11-13
"But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife."

That's good advice...But it's not the law...We are not under the law...But why don't you reference the rest of the chapter instead of just cherry picking a verse that 'appears', on its own, to bolster your opinion...

32 posted on 09/17/2016 6:34:27 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ealgeone

I don’t think you have ever left ground zero; I think you’re stuck there.


33 posted on 09/17/2016 6:34:29 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Iscool
When I go about my daily life I don't even consider the 10 Commandments...They are a burden and they put a person in bondage...

Yes, I did understand you. You have already stated you condone adultery:

We are not under the law as Christians...We are covered by grace...There is no sin in a second marriage, or a third...

34 posted on 09/17/2016 6:37:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Iscool
If anyone says that Jesus Christ is a redeemer in whom they are to trust but not also a lawgiver whom they are bound to obey, they are pretty badly mistaken.

I think you probably have the Gospel of John in your Bible? Jesus says there is no abolition of commandments: if we love Him, we keep His commandments.

Read John 14: “If you love me, keep my commands.
...Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them."

Look at all the timnes in the Gospels Our Lortd tells us to obey the commandments.

You'd have to go after your NT with an X-acto knife and leave it looking like a paper doily, if you cut out the plces Jesus tells us to obey the Commandments.

35 posted on 09/17/2016 7:09:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." - Matthew 19:17)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Iscool
34But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered themselves together.

35One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him,

36“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?”

37And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’

38“This is the great and foremost commandment.

39“The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’

40“On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

Matt 22:34-40

36 posted on 09/17/2016 7:15:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide; Salvation
I don’t think you have ever left ground zero; I think you’re stuck there.

I see you ignore Salvation's post on the catholic commandments that edits out the one about not making any graven images.

Care to elaborate? Either of you?

37 posted on 09/17/2016 7:17:12 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Iscool
We are not under halachic regulations: the whole panoply of ritual and kosher laws, the 613 Mitzvot, which made Israel distinctive as a "nation apart."

This is what St. Paul had to contend with: do Christian Gentiles have to live like Torah Jews? The answer is "no."

But we definitely have to obey God's moral Laws, which are universal and eternal. This is not just good advice. This is the way of Life.

And the other way, breaking the Commandments, is the way if Death:

1 Corinthians 5:9-10
Do you not know
that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived.
Neither fornicators,
nor idolaters,
nor adulterers,
nor boy prostitutes,
nor sodomites,
nor thieves,
nor covetous,
nor drunkards,
nor revilers,
nor extortioners
will inherit the kingdom of God."

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38 posted on 09/17/2016 7:22:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." - Matthew 19:17)
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To: ealgeone

Exactly. We are being told that the Two Great Commandments comprise and summarize all the rest. Thus we are to obey the Commandments.


39 posted on 09/17/2016 7:25:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments." - Matthew 19:17)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
On this there is no disagreement. The problem is we cannot keep these Commandments much as we want to. We are sinners.

Thankfully, we have an Advocate in Jesus Christ the righteous. 1 John 2:1.

9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9.

40 posted on 09/17/2016 7:32:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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