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How One Skeptical Scientist Came to Believe the Shroud of Turin
Catholic News Agency ^ | 12/19/15 | Ann Schneible

Posted on 12/20/2015 2:34:41 PM PST by marshmallow

Rome, Italy, Dec 19, 2015 / 03:39 pm (CNA).- The Shroud of Turin has different meanings for many people: some see it as an object of veneration, others a forgery, still others a medieval curiosity. For one Jewish scientist, however, the evidence has led him to see it as a meeting point between science and faith.

"The Shroud challenges (many people's core beliefs) because there's a strong implication that there is something beyond the basic science going on here," Barrie Schwortz, one of the leading scientific experts on the Shroud of Turin, told CNA.

Admitting that he did not know whether there was something beyond science at play, he added: "That's not what convinced me: it was the science that convinced me."

The Shroud of Turin is among the most well-known relics believed to be connected with Christ's Passion. Venerated for centuries by Christians as the burial shroud of Jesus, it has been subject to intense scientific study to ascertain its authenticity, and the origins of the image.

The image on the 14 feet long, three-and-a-half feet wide cloth is stained with the postmortem image of a man - front and back - who has been brutally tortured and crucified.

Schwortz, now a retired technical photographer and frequent lecturer on the shroud, was a member of the 1978 Shroud of Turin Research Project which brought prestigious scientists together to examine the ancient artifact.

As a non-practicing Jew at the time, he was hesitant to be part of the team and skeptical as to the shroud's authenticity - presuming it was nothing more than an elaborate painting. Nonetheless, he was intrigued by the scientific questions raised by the image.

Despite his reservations, Schwortz recounts being persuaded to remain on the project by a fellow scientist on the team.....

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TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; History
KEYWORDS: clothofturin; medievalhoax; shroud; shroudofturin
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1 posted on 12/20/2015 2:34:41 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Thanks for posting this.


2 posted on 12/20/2015 2:44:40 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: marshmallow

IMHO it kinda conflicts with the 2nd commandment.


3 posted on 12/20/2015 2:48:11 PM PST by FES0844
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To: marshmallow

Still fascinating.


4 posted on 12/20/2015 2:48:32 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The fundamental things apply, as time goes by.)
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To: FES0844

If it is a result of a natural scientific process, even if that is something we don’t understand, it is not a graven image made by someone to be worshipped. It is more like a photograph or a negative.


5 posted on 12/20/2015 2:51:12 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: marshmallow

“That way they don’t have to confront their own beliefs.”

“I think some people would rather ignore it than be challenged.”

Kinda reminds you of the folks concerning another “settled science


6 posted on 12/20/2015 2:52:58 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: FES0844

The Second Commandment prohibits giving any creature the worship that is due to God alone.

Nobody worships the Shroud.


7 posted on 12/20/2015 2:54:18 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: traderrob6

global warming :)


8 posted on 12/20/2015 2:55:00 PM PST by dp0622 (..)
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To: freepertoo
If it is a result of a natural scientific process, even if that is something we don’t understand, it is not a graven image made by someone to be worshipped. It is more like a photograph or a negative.

True enough.
As the decades and centuries go by scientists will be able to be more and more definitive about the shroud's authenticity.

It doesn't matter, though. One believes in Jesus as the Son of God and our Messiah or one doesn't. A shroud doesn't change that.

9 posted on 12/20/2015 2:55:37 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

That’s why it’s called “faith” bro.


10 posted on 12/20/2015 2:58:37 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: cloudmountain

Absolutely right.


11 posted on 12/20/2015 3:00:12 PM PST by freepertoo
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Catholic ping!


12 posted on 12/20/2015 3:02:22 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: traderrob6
That’s why it’s called “faith” bro.

That would be "sis."

13 posted on 12/20/2015 3:03:49 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

:}, I stand corrected.


14 posted on 12/20/2015 3:06:03 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

Thanks, bro. :o)


15 posted on 12/20/2015 3:07:14 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow

Goy...in Cantonese one says “Ho mmm goy,” which means thank you very much.


16 posted on 12/20/2015 3:09:04 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: freepertoo

Hanen’t been watching the Shroud research lately. Last I heard it was a 14th century cloth. Has that conclusion changed?


17 posted on 12/20/2015 3:11:02 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my bravNL skit.e ancestors who fought)
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To: catfish1957

I think that was debunked quite a while ago...seems they tested a patch used to mend fire damage in the 14th century. Not too bright.


18 posted on 12/20/2015 3:21:38 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: catfish1957

Yes the original carbon dating was determined to be from a sample of the shroud that was repaired. A thorough analysis including developing the reverse image was completed by Dr. Downing. It is a must watch program that will leave you as it did the good Dr. Should be easy to find.


19 posted on 12/20/2015 3:21:40 PM PST by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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To: mcshot; freepertoo

Thanks, I’ll check it out.


20 posted on 12/20/2015 3:25:14 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my bravNL skit.e ancestors who fought)
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