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To: freepertoo
If it is a result of a natural scientific process, even if that is something we don’t understand, it is not a graven image made by someone to be worshipped. It is more like a photograph or a negative.

True enough.
As the decades and centuries go by scientists will be able to be more and more definitive about the shroud's authenticity.

It doesn't matter, though. One believes in Jesus as the Son of God and our Messiah or one doesn't. A shroud doesn't change that.

9 posted on 12/20/2015 2:55:37 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

That’s why it’s called “faith” bro.


10 posted on 12/20/2015 2:58:37 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: cloudmountain

Absolutely right.


11 posted on 12/20/2015 3:00:12 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: cloudmountain
It doesn't matter, though. One believes in Jesus as the Son of God and our Messiah or one doesn't. A shroud doesn't change that.

But it DOES matter. Because it's EVIDENCE.

Evidence doesn't COMPEL people to believe, but neither do people believe for no reason.

If Jesus left us a photograph of himself, I think it's rash and ungrateful to wave one's hand and say "It doesn't matter."

Is it NECESSARY to know about the Shroud in order to believe in Jesus? Obviously not. But "It doesn't matter" is an entirely different assertion.

26 posted on 12/20/2015 3:54:50 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: cloudmountain

Apparently, The Shroud changed at least the author’s beliefs.


58 posted on 12/22/2015 4:49:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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