Reformation Reminders: Rome & Her Desecration of Christ

The CrippleGate ^ | OCTOBER 28, 2015 | Eric Davis

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Reformation Reminders: Rome & Her Desecration of Christ

By Eric Davis

OCTOBER 28, 2015

This Saturday, October 31, commemorates nearly 500 years since one of the greatest movements of God in church history; the Protestant Reformation. Up to the time of the Reformation, much of Europe had been dominated by the reign of Roman Catholicism. To the populace was propagated the idea that salvation was found under Rome and her system alone.

But as the cultural and theological fog cleared in Europe and beyond, God's people gained a clarity that had been mostly absent for centuries. The Reformers gained this clarity from keeping with a simple principle: sola scritpura, or, Scripture alone. As they searched the word of God, they discovered that Rome deviated radically on the most critical points of biblical Christianity. With one mind, God's people discerned from Scripture that, tragically, Roman Catholicism was a desecration to the Lord Jesus Christ.

[WVKayaker]

It's a made-up, false tradition of men not found anywhere in Scripture, so why wouldn't we hate it?

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Is that anything like the ridiculous myths of the Roman Catholic cult surrounding their version of me woman named mary and other dead people?

2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

[Campion]

Until the divine right of kings was shattered

The "Divine Right of Kings" was an English Protestant idea, not a Catholic one.

[Campion]

One only needs to compare North America to South America to see the fruits of Protestantism versus Catholicism

In whose favor? Do you seriously want to defend the direction North American culture is going?

Besides, you're also comparing a Spanish model of evangelization, colonization, and culture, with an English one. If you imagine that the English Reformation had never happened, North America would still have turned out very differently from South America.

[Campion]

dead people

Which people in heaven are dead?

[Gamecock]

That teaching is a lot more clear than any Roma. doctrines.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

"2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Notice it doesn't say "only Scripture."

[maryz]

2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

To claim that that proves "sola Scriptura" is like claiming that because nutritionists say broccoli is good for you, you should eat nothing but broccoli.

[maryz]

the church ranked one man more "legitimate" than another man rather than created them as equal.

The Church always recognized (in general) the legitimacy of secular authority, but insisted that this had no relation to the spiritual worth of anyone, whereas at least some strands of Protestantism (especially Calvinism) maintained that worldly and financial success proved evidence of Election.

[Bellflower]

One of the greatest posts I ever read on Free Republic. Thank you for your clear message.

[nathanbedford]

Please, the entire feudal structure was sanctified and legitimated by the church. The Protestant Reformation was the necessary intellectual predicate for overturning that structure. All of this nonsense we are reading on this thread about when does the medieval age begin, that the divine right of kings which was around in concept long before the Reformation was fashioned by Protestants and much more is an elaborate and contorted reinvention of the sweep of history.

Luther was never capable intellectually or theologically of pursuing his insights fully into the political realm, for example, he could not side with the peasants and their revolt against the nobility but it was his initial contribution that has set us on the road to 1776.

My remarks are not by way of criticism of Catholicism but mere historical observation of the contribution of Martin Luther, which might have been limited in its political application by the man himself but which was absolutely essential.

[Salvation]

Catholics do NOT desicrate Christ! Where did you get your mistaken information?

 

Jesus, High Priest

[Salvation]

Heresies?

[Bellflower]

To claim that that proves "sola Scriptura" is like claiming that because nutritionists say broccoli is good for you, you should eat nothing but broccoli.

Are you not saying the same thing about the Catholic Church, that it alone is the authority, not any other church? It's the "broccoli". It really is a matter of which is God's authority. The CC or Scripture. Since much of which the CC espouses is contrary to Scripture it cannot be both. One is right and the other is wrong. Since the entire Bible extols God's Word as authoritive, never changing and unbreakable, I go with His Word.

[Kolokotronis]

“The “Divine Right of Kings” was an English Protestant idea, not a Catholic one.”

Well, yes and no. The concept of a God Ordained Emperor presiding over God’s commonwealth on earth is distinctly Catholic, though I admit of the Eastern persuasion.

Not a bad idea to this day, btw.

[Salvation]

And Christ gave his authority to the apostles, the first Bishops.

[Salvation]

Matthew 28

18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth
has been given to me.

19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with
you always, to the close of the age.”

[Boogieman]

Catholics call everything that isn’t Catholic a heresy, Protestantism included. So what is your point?

[xone]

To claim that that proves "sola Scriptura" is like claiming that because nutritionists say broccoli is good for you, you should eat nothing but broccoli.

What you say might be valid, when nutritionists' outlook is on par with God's Word.

[Boogieman]

“In whose favor? Do you seriously want to defend the direction North American culture is going?”

Well, now you are playing games, narrowing the focus to how the culture “is going”, right now, and in the future. Seeing how secularism has increased notably in recent decades, that isn’t a sensible thing to focus on when you are talking about the impact of the majority religion on the state of affairs. If you want to compare how North American Protestant nations did against South and Central America Catholic nations, over the course of their whole history, then yes, I do think it’s comes out in our favor, by a vast margin.

Even if we were to limit it just to the current state of affairs like you wanted, I still think we come out far ahead. There are no states in Protestant North America where communist insurgencies openly operate, or where military juntas have seized control, or where narco cartels control the economy. There are no countries up here where people live in shanty town ghettos with no plumbing, there are no packs of orphans running the street picking pockets, and we don’t worry about armed gangs kidnapping us for ransom except in the rarest circumstances. Go down to the Catholic countries, and those things are facts of life.

[papertyger]

What you say might be valid, when nutritionists' outlook is on par with God's Word.

So how does God's outlook differ from the nutritionist that makes something you admit should be valid?