Posted on 08/11/2015 12:14:08 PM PDT by Gamecock
Leaders from across the body of Christ were contacting me all weekend about T.D. Jakes' interview on HuffPo TV's Marc Hill.
The megachurch pastor was accused of coming out in favor of gay marriage. One headline proclaimed his position on LGBT churches is "evolving."
I reached out to bishop's office this weekend by phone and email. I wanted to ask him personally what he meant, because we know all too well that the secular media—and the heresy hunters—like to twist the word of godly men and women to support an agenda.
Late last night, Jakes issued a statement on Facebook, which is reprinted below in its entirety.
My comment on HuffPo TV drifted into issues of the Supreme Court ruling and changing the world through public policy verses personal witness. Further, I have come to respect that I can't force my beliefs on others by controlling public policy for taxpayers and other U.S. citizens.
Jesus never sought to change the world through public policy but rather through personal transformation. All people didn't embrace Him either. That's what I said and what I meant ... Nothing more and nothing less.
Just because a so-called Christian publication chooses to misconstrue my words using lazy journalistic tactics to further their own agenda and draw attention to their site does not make their statements an accurate depiction of what I said or meant.
Investigate.
Do not take everything you read online or hear repeated as truth. When asked about the "black church" and its role in ministering to gay people, I briefly mentioned (we were running out of time) the word "evolved and evolving" regarding my approach over the 39 years of my ministry to gay people who choose to come to our services.
I simply meant that my method is evolving—not my message. I was shocked to read that this was manipulated in a subsequent article to say I endorsed same-sex marriage! My position on the subject has been steadfast and rooted in Scripture.
For the record, I do not endorse same-sex marriage, but I respect the rights that this country affords those that disagree with me.
Michael Brown, though, still wants Jakes to offer more clarification. (FR thread linked below) What's your take? Are you relieved? Does Jakes need to be clearer or is it now crystal to you where he stands?
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If you make vague statements, like it appears Jakes, did you are opening yourself up for all sorts of interpretations.
Last time we all checked, he is STILL a modalist anti-Trinitarian heretic, though.
Jakes denies the Trinity? Another item on the list of troubling things about Jakes’ ministry.
Maybe there’s hope for him still.....
just saw this:
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/2662-t-d-jakes-says-he-has-embraced-doctrine-of-the-trinity
To post #2: Note how the gal in the white top, approaching the abyss from the right, runs without moving her arms.
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/2662-t-d-jakes-says-he-has-embraced-doctrine-of-the-trinity
Russell D. Moore, dean of the school of theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said he takes “Bishop Jakes at his word that he holds to Trinitarianism.”
“But there’s still some elephants left in the room,” Moore said. “First of all, Bishop Jakes isn’t a new convert being discipled in the basics of the Christian faith. He is a celebrity mega-church pastor. Moreover, Trinitarianism isn’t the ‘meat’ of some advanced doctrine, but the most foundational doctrine of the Christian faith. A Christian pastor affirming least-common-denominator Christian doctrine should hardly be news, much less an elephant in the room. This can only happen in an American evangelicalism that values success, novelty and celebrity more than church accountability.”
Moore added, “There still stands the issue of the prosperity gospel Bishop Jakes preaches. Joyce Meyer and Kenneth Copeland are Trinitarians but their health and wealth gospel is different from the message of Jesus and His apostles.”
My comment: The problem is, Copeland and Meyer are big-time heretics....:
http://www.deliveredbygrace.com/exposing-joyce-meyer/
It appears that some time in the last few years he decided to embrace the Trinity. Still, there are other things about his ministry that are, shall we say, troubling.
Jakes is still obfuscating, and he uses ever nuanced mechanism of the secular left to do so.
“For the record, I do not endorse same-sex marriage, but I respect the rights that this country affords those that disagree with me.”
But he wouldn’t object to the rights of those who presumably agree with him from being squashed? This is EXACTLY what the Gaystapo wants.
“Jesus never sought to change the world through public policy but rather through personal transformation.”
that would be fiction, but spoken like a pure leftist politician. one wonders what he think the Ten Commandments were for? but i suppose that position it is consistent with being anti-trinitarian.
hope and pray he “evolves” away from his current faith.
He claims to have done so, but if you dig deep on his website he provides a modalist view of the Trinity.
How is this different from Mario Cuomo's position on abortion in the 80s? To paraphrase: "I disagree with it, but won't let my personal belief influence public policy."
Perhaps Jakes was interviewed in Italian, and was misinterpreted in translation.
Amen! If you mess God up, everything else falls apart too!
So he didn’t attack those on the left who were forcing their beliefs on the country. He called those “rights”
Ah, so he speaketh with forked tongue.
Again, thank you! Keep exposing these frauds.
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