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T.D. Jakes Comes Out for ‘Gay Marriage’ and ‘LGBT Churches,’ Says Position is ‘Evolving’
http://christiannews.net ^ | August 7, 2015 | Heather Clark

Posted on 08/08/2015 9:27:02 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

Megachurch leader and author T.D. Jakes says that homosexuals should attend congregations that affirm their lifestyle and that politics do not need to reflect biblical ethics, adding that his position on homosexuality is both “evolved and evolving.”

During an interview with the Huffington Post on Monday, Jakes was asked by a viewer if he believes that homosexuals and the black church can co-exist.

“Absolutely… I think it is going to be diverse from church to church. Every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” he replied. “And I think that to speak that the church—the black church, the white church or any kind of church you wanna call it—are all the same, is totally not true.”

Jakes said that he thinks homosexuals should find congregations that affirm their lifestyle.

"LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,” he outlined.

“The church should have the right to have its own convictions and values; if you don’t like those convictions and values [and] you totally disagree with it, don’t try to change my house, move into your own … and find somebody who gets what you get about faith,” Jakes added.

He said that the issue of homosexuality is “complex.”

“Paul spends a lot of time wrestling back and forth, trying to understand should a woman wear a head covering, should you cut your hair,” Jakes stated. “I mean, they grappled back then and we’re grappling now because we’re humans and we are flawed and we’re not God.”

“Once you understand you’re not God, you leave yourself an ‘out’ clause to grow,” he said.

When asked if his position on homosexuality has “evolved,” Jakes agreed that it has.

“Evolved and evolving,” he replied. “I think that where I am is to better understand we, the church, bought into the myth that this is a Christian nation.”

Earlier this year, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states must legalize same-sex “marriage,” igniting a battle between the Church and State over the issue. In his comments on Monday, Jakes advocated for the separation of Church and State, which would allow for “all types of people” to have whatever rights they desire despite biblical prohibitions. He said that politics don’t need to be based on Christianity.

“[O]nce you get past [thinking America is a Christian nation] … Once you begin to understand that democracy—that a republic actually—is designed to be an overarching system to protect our unique nuances, then we no longer look for public policy to reflect biblical ethics,” Jakes explained.

“If we can divide—or what you would call separation of Church and State—then we can dwell together more effectively because atheists, agnostics, Jews, all types of people, Muslims, pay into the government. The government then cannot reflect one particular view over another just because we’re the dominant group of religious people in [this] country because those numbers are changing every day,” he asserted. “We need a neutralized government that protects our right to disagree with one another and agree with one another.”

Jakes had visited the Huffington Post to discuss his new book on “destiny.” The interview focused on motivational subject matter in following one’s dreams and passions as opposed to the eternal destiny of the soul.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; gaykkk; homosexualagenda; huffingtonpost; huffpo; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; obamacare; tdjakes; ybpdln; zerocare
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What a complete anti-God hypocrite. Who you think he voted for?
1 posted on 08/08/2015 9:27:02 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Black Preacher in West Virginia if I have this right. Surprising.

In this day and age, you don’t know if it could be a publicity stunt but doing such has seen some Churches lose their membership in droves.


2 posted on 08/08/2015 9:33:09 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: NKP_Vet

Never ever trust Mega Churches


3 posted on 08/08/2015 9:36:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: NKP_Vet

Another wolf in sheep’s clothing.


4 posted on 08/08/2015 9:36:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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http://www.tdjakes.org/

It may go over some people’s heads, but there are questionable symbols on his website.


5 posted on 08/08/2015 9:37:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet

Homosexuality is a sin. If a “sinner” goes to church he is taught he must confess his sins. That doesn’t mean he’s supposed to kiss his “husband” in church and yell “I’m a sinner.”


6 posted on 08/08/2015 9:37:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: Salvation

Must be over mine...what are they?


7 posted on 08/08/2015 9:46:33 PM PDT by Girlene
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T.D. Jakes says that homosexuals should attend congregations that affirm their lifestyle and that politics do not need to reflect biblical ethics, adding that his position on homosexuality is both “evolved and evolving.”

...Away from The Bible.

8 posted on 08/08/2015 9:47:13 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: BeadCounter

Actually, I think he is in South Dallas. Certain scriptures about “even the very elect” come to mind every time I read about another “church” condoning perversion.


9 posted on 08/08/2015 9:48:20 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither)
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To: BeadCounter

He is a black preacher whose church, the potter house, is alongside DFW Airport near Dallas. Big church from what I’ve seen while driving by it.

He does a lot of ho-wood work along with the preaching. I’m guessing ho-wood is his one true god.


10 posted on 08/08/2015 9:50:37 PM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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TD Jakes son is queer.


11 posted on 08/08/2015 9:54:24 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Let’s see, the wind is blowing...that way. I think I’ll just blow right along with it.

Signs of the times.


12 posted on 08/08/2015 9:56:16 PM PDT by lurk
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Just as the Bible said they would.


13 posted on 08/08/2015 9:57:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NKP_Vet

This isn’t a surprise. Jakes preaches a number of false doctrines. For instance, it has long been known that he’s a modalist. He has also shown support for Joel Osteen’s sham ministry.


14 posted on 08/08/2015 9:59:17 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: NKP_Vet

And the falling away continues. Do not be deceived.


15 posted on 08/08/2015 9:59:57 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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16 posted on 08/08/2015 10:01:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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Well Mr. Jakes, where did this “that democracy - that a republic actually,” get its rights exactly? According to the Declaration of Independence, we got them from God. By celebrating gay behavior, we turn away from, thumb our noses at, and shake our fists at the One who gave us the gift of this nation, and we have no right to expect any better than Sodom and Gomorrah received. When you throw in what we are paying Planned Parenthood to do, it’s hard to imagine how anyone in this country is still walking around alive. It is attitudes like yours, TD Jakes, that dooms this country. Going secular is not working God’s will.


17 posted on 08/08/2015 10:02:49 PM PDT by Waryone
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Black Preacher in West Virginia if I have this right.

Nope.

6777 W. Kiest Blvd. Dallas, TX 75236-3006

18 posted on 08/08/2015 10:03:39 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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“Evolving”: instant red flag.


19 posted on 08/08/2015 10:10:17 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Salvation
Among other issues, he's a modalist...
20 posted on 08/08/2015 10:11:41 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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