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Original FR thread: T.D. Jakes Comes Out for ‘Gay Marriage’ and ‘LGBT Churches,’ Says Position is ‘Evolving’
FR thread of above reference article: Bishop Jakes, Could You Clarify Your Stance on Homosexuality?
1 posted on 08/11/2015 12:14:08 PM PDT by Gamecock
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2 posted on 08/11/2015 12:15:53 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists: "There is no God and I hate Him!")
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To: Gamecock

Last time we all checked, he is STILL a modalist anti-Trinitarian heretic, though.


4 posted on 08/11/2015 12:18:05 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Gamecock

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/2662-t-d-jakes-says-he-has-embraced-doctrine-of-the-trinity

Russell D. Moore, dean of the school of theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said he takes “Bishop Jakes at his word that he holds to Trinitarianism.”

“But there’s still some elephants left in the room,” Moore said. “First of all, Bishop Jakes isn’t a new convert being discipled in the basics of the Christian faith. He is a celebrity mega-church pastor. Moreover, Trinitarianism isn’t the ‘meat’ of some advanced doctrine, but the most foundational doctrine of the Christian faith. A Christian pastor affirming least-common-denominator Christian doctrine should hardly be news, much less an elephant in the room. This can only happen in an American evangelicalism that values success, novelty and celebrity more than church accountability.”

Moore added, “There still stands the issue of the prosperity gospel Bishop Jakes preaches. Joyce Meyer and Kenneth Copeland are Trinitarians but their health and wealth gospel is different from the message of Jesus and His apostles.”


My comment: The problem is, Copeland and Meyer are big-time heretics....:

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2014/03/05/kenneth-copeland-is-a-false-teacher-and-a-heretic/

http://www.deliveredbygrace.com/exposing-joyce-meyer/


10 posted on 08/11/2015 12:25:46 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Gamecock

Jakes is still obfuscating, and he uses ever nuanced mechanism of the secular left to do so.

“For the record, I do not endorse same-sex marriage, but I respect the rights that this country affords those that disagree with me.”

But he wouldn’t object to the rights of those who presumably agree with him from being squashed? This is EXACTLY what the Gaystapo wants.


12 posted on 08/11/2015 12:31:10 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Gamecock; fishtank

“Jesus never sought to change the world through public policy but rather through personal transformation.”

that would be fiction, but spoken like a pure leftist politician. one wonders what he think the Ten Commandments were for? but i suppose that position it is consistent with being anti-trinitarian.

hope and pray he “evolves” away from his current faith.


13 posted on 08/11/2015 12:31:54 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Gamecock
For the record, I do not endorse same-sex marriage, but I respect the rights that this country affords those that disagree with me.

How is this different from Mario Cuomo's position on abortion in the 80s? To paraphrase: "I disagree with it, but won't let my personal belief influence public policy."

15 posted on 08/11/2015 12:39:16 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Gamecock

So he didn’t attack those on the left who were forcing their beliefs on the country. He called those “rights”


18 posted on 08/11/2015 12:44:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: Gamecock
"For the record, I do not endorse same-sex marriage, but I respect the rights that this country affords those that disagree with me."

See TD, that's what we're talking about... This country cannot "afford (confer) rights of same sex marriage" because it is not this country's right to do so. When you say such things you actually are saying something akin to this; baby butchery is wrong but who are we to impose our views on others, especially if the supreme court, (of fools) says its OK, unfortunately though, that is how we have lived in this country, to everyone's shame, mine included.

No, we do not condemn folks for living in sin, but we do warn them that they are condemned already, and will face the wrath of God, and are in need of a savior. Finally, let me ask, when the supreme court rules 5 to 4 that christians can be fined and imprisoned for speaking the whole of God's word, are you going to fall back on that same false argument?

Or maybe, you love the posh lifestyle of being the Big-Dawg of modern day spirituality... um-um-um keep those tithes and offerings rollin in folks, got-za-big batch o' ribs cook'n up tonight...

21 posted on 08/11/2015 12:57:07 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...lief systems)
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To: Gamecock

Your first mistake was giving an interview to HuffPo........
What were you thinking?


24 posted on 08/11/2015 2:29:35 PM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: Gamecock

“Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.”


25 posted on 08/12/2015 8:16:02 PM PDT by onedoug
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