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1 posted on 07/18/2015 11:11:54 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock; Mr. K; GraceG
Many.

Mostly because No One Was Expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

They have Two Weapons.

Fear and Surprise and Ruthless Efficiency.

2 posted on 07/18/2015 11:15:29 AM PDT by KC_Lion (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! G-d bless you all!)
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To: Gamecock

Not related to the question at hand, but some facts to debunk the common ‘religion is the major cause of wars’ nonsense

China 221 B.C.-19 C. Deaths= 33, 519,0004 Religious? No
Mongols 14 C-15 C Deaths= 29 927,000 Religious? No
Slavery 1451-1870 Deaths= 17,267,000 Religious? No
Amer-Indians 16 C-19 C13, Deaths= 778,000 Religious? No
30-Years War 1618-1648 Deaths= 5,750,000 Religious? No
In India 13 C-1 9 C Deaths= 4,511,0005 Religious? No
In Iran 5 C-19 C Deaths= 2,000,000 Religious? No
Ottoman Emp. 12 C-19 C Deaths= 2,000,0005 Religious? No
In Japan 1570-19 C Deaths= 1,500,0005 Religious? No
In Russia 10 C-19 C Deaths= 1,007,0005 Religious? No
Crusades 1095-1272 Deaths= 1,000,000 Religious? Religious? Yes
Aztecs Centuries Deaths= 1,000,0006 Religious? Ye
Inquisition 16 C-18 C Deaths= 350,000 Religious? Yes
French Rev. 1793-1794 Deaths= 263,000 Religious? No
Albigensians 1208-1249 Deaths= 200,000 Religious? Yes
Witch Hunts 15 C-17 C Deaths= 100,000 Religious? Yes

Atheist Nations that murdered for no reason

Afghanistan 1978-1992 DEATHS= 1,750,000
Albania 1944-1985 DEATHS= 100,000
Angola 1975-2002 DEATHS= 125,000
Bulgaria 1944-1989 DEATHS= 222,000
China/PRC 1923-2007 DEATHS= 76,702,000
Cuba 1959-1992 DEATHS= 73,000
Czech 1948-1968 DEATHS= 65,000
Ethiopia 1974-1991 DEATHS= 1,343,610
France 1793-1794 DEATHS= 40,000
Greece 1946-1949 DEATHS= 20,000
Hungary 1948-1989 DEATHS= 27,000
Cambodia 1973-1991 DEATHS= 2,627,000
Laos 1975-2007 DEATHS= 93,000
Mongolia 1926-2007 DEATHS= 100,000
Mozambique 1975-1990 DEATHS= 118,000
North Korea 1948-2007 DEATHS= 3,163,000
Poland 1945-1948 DEATHS= 1,607,000
Romania 1948-1987 DEATHS= 438,000
Spain 1936-1939 DEATHS= 102,000
U.S.S.R. 1917-1987 DEATHS= 61,911,000
Vietnam 1945-2007 DEATHS= 1,670,000
Yugoslavia 1944-1980 DEATHS= 1,072,000

20’th century Democide

Country Year Deaths Atheist?

U.S.S.R. 1917-87 61,911,000 Yes
China 1949-87 35,236,000 Yes
Germany 1933-45 20,946,000 No
China 1928-49 10,075,000 No
Japan 1936-45 5,964,000 No
China 1923-49 3,466,000 Yes
Cambodia 1975-79 2,035,000 Yes
Turkey 909-18 1,883,000 No
Vietnam 1945-87 1,670,000 Yes
Poland 1945-48 1,585,000 Yes
Pakistan 1958-87 1,503,000 No
Yugoslavia 1944-87 1,072,000 Yes
N. Korea 1948-87 1,663,000 Yes
Mexico 1900-20 1,417,000 No
Russia 1900-17 1,066,000 Yes
China 1917-49 910,000 No
Turkey 1919-23 878,000 No
UK 1900-87 816,000 No
Portugal 1926-82 741,000 No
Indonesia 1965-87 729,000 No
LESSER MURDERERS 1900-87 2,792,000 ?
WORLD TOTAL 1900-87 169,202,000 107,047,000

The Crusades were a DEFENSIVE action against a Muslim invasion of the West. They had already taken Jerusalem and kicked out all Christians and Jews. Pope Urban II started the first Crusade in 1095 at the request of the Orthodox church in Constantinople. They needed help defending themselves against the beheaders.


3 posted on 07/18/2015 11:18:22 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Gamecock

keeping it in perspective, this is during a period of nearly 200 years. ISIS has beaten these figures in one year.


4 posted on 07/18/2015 11:18:36 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Gamecock

All of them.
Everyone that died in the Inquisition.. died as a direct result of the Inquisition.


5 posted on 07/18/2015 11:19:49 AM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Gamecock

Cue the Inquisition Deniers. They are FReepers who are Roman Catholic sycophants, convinced that to be Jewish or Protestant in Portugal and Spain was actually a good thing. Or the other tactic is to say the horrors were not instituted by the “church.” Yeah, and ISIS is not Islamic...


6 posted on 07/18/2015 11:19:59 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Gamecock; FReepers; All; FRiends
You Might Not have been Expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

But you were Expecting the FReep-A-Thon!

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7 posted on 07/18/2015 11:20:01 AM PDT by KC_Lion (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! G-d bless you all!)
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To: Gamecock
Interesting defense: "We weren't evil. We didn't kill as many as some people say."

This leaves the question begging: by what authority did this alleged church kill or imprison anyone?

12 posted on 07/18/2015 11:25:16 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Now, which is bigger, Pluto or Goofy?)
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To: Gamecock

People who professed Christianity but disagreed with the Roman Catholic church (e.g. Protestants) would have been seen as worse rivals to the Roman Catholic regime than those who didn’t profess Christianity, such as Jews. Still, the latter didn’t dare oppose the Roman Catholic church or they, too, became fodder for the slaughter.

And this is one of the saddest chapters in Christendom. A congregation that was supposed to be exalting Christ ended up exalting mainly itself. It is so easy for a religious system to slide into such self adulation. Let us pray that evangelicals will resist such a siren song because the devil doesn’t discriminate, he tempts them in that manner too, resulting in a plethora of “Our Church Congregation Is The Only One Right With God.”


13 posted on 07/18/2015 11:27:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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When people talk about the Spanish Inquisition they ALWAYS forget that Spain had been occupied for over SEVEN HUNDRED years by Muslims prior to the inquisition!

The inquisition was a response to over 700 hundred years of muslim occupation. And they thus had learned from the best butchers on the planet.


16 posted on 07/18/2015 11:35:58 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Gamecock

One is one too many. Satan had control of church hierarchy for those years. That is the only explanation for the atrocities committed in the name of God.


22 posted on 07/18/2015 11:41:55 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Gamecock
Approximately a billion...Or was it a million-billion?

Highly unexpected, either way.

29 posted on 07/18/2015 12:15:59 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd
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To: Gamecock

Conflating the Spanish Inquisition with the Thirty Years War is just dumb and bad history. The Thirty Years War wasn’t as simple as “Protestant vs Catholic”; there were Catholics and Protestants on both sides. And it was a *war*, not a judicial proceeding.


33 posted on 07/18/2015 12:29:16 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Gamecock

No direct answers in the article.

Sort of like what I posted this morning.


35 posted on 07/18/2015 1:09:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The thread title, How Many People Died in the Inquisition?

Is significantly different than the thesis question, How Many Protestants Were Killed in the Inquisition?

The answer to the thread's title is "not nearly enough." My answer to the second question is that I don't know of any who were.

(And, by the way, I wish that the Holy See would have never gotten rid of the Inquisition...we need it more now than ever)

Why the difference?

First, the Inquisition was not a period of time. The Inquisition was an office of the Holy See, established in approximately 1225 by Pope Gregory IX. Interestingly, he established it to reign in the actions taken by the civil ruler Frederick II, who was in the process of taking care of heretics in France on his own (mostly without any justice: in Frederick's France, if you were accused, you were guilty).

Secondly, as far as I could tell, the targets of the Inquisition were "Catholic". Catholics who embraced heretical doctrines. Its purpose was to root out those heretics and have them removed from the Church so they couldn't spread their rot further. As the Protestant's King James Version says:

[1Ti 6:20-21 KJV] 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace [be] with thee. Amen.

[Tit 3:10-11 KJV] 10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

Yes, I do wish the Inquisition existed today. There are so many people today who profess to be Catholic while professing the exact opposite, they need to be rooted out and expelled. Consider public political figures like the Kennedy clan, Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, and so on...and religious figures like Kasper, Bernardin, Wuerl, Mahony, etc., and their ilk. If the State where they live had a criminal penalty for heresy, so much the better.

38 posted on 07/18/2015 1:44:25 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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However, if the term is used in a broad sense—to represent all Roman Catholic activity against non-Catholics—then the numbers rise dramatically. If the historian includes forms of torture and killing that did not involve a formal trial, along with religious wars and other forms of Catholic violence enacted against Protestants and other non-Catholics (in areas outside of Spain and Portugal), then one can easily speak in terms of millions of people who were killed.
39 posted on 07/18/2015 2:31:40 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Gamecock

Clearly not enough.


41 posted on 07/18/2015 2:41:39 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Gamecock

Good thing the torture has stopped., I live in an area that is 85% RC


42 posted on 07/18/2015 2:45:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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The Truth about the Spanish Inquisition
Thomas F. Madden
April 2, 2011
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2011/the-truth-about-the-spanish-inquisition

Because it was both professional and efficient, the Spanish Inquisition kept very good records. These documents are a goldmine for modern historians who have plunged greedily into them. Thus far, the fruits of that research have made one thing abundantly clear — the myth of the Spanish Inquisition has nothing at all to do with the real thing.


47 posted on 07/18/2015 5:15:32 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Tennessee Nana
It might be edifying for you to add what you've found of the Historical record from you family's records. Weren't the Huguenots persecuted in Inquisition style by Rome?
49 posted on 07/18/2015 5:42:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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Hard to say how many were Protestant. None, at first.

If 32,000 died, as is stated, over the course of 400 years that means on average about 80 people per year, equal to about the number of Jews in one train car at Auschwitz, or several days of incineration at Lenin’s Lubianka prison. (The Czar, in the year of the revolution, executed a total of 12 people for various capital offences.) This in no way excuses their use of Torture.

C.S. Lewis traced possible source for the use of torture by the church and by civil authorities in Europe to certain permissions incautiously granted by Augustine, the bishop of Hippo I North Africa. When faced with the abandonment of the Faith by a group of North African heretics—I do not recall their names...began with a “D,” Augustine worked to bring them back to the faith, but they were resistant. An exasperated Augustine, agreed to their torture by Civil authorities to force them back to the faith. (He was Roman and shared their outlook about torture.)


58 posted on 07/18/2015 10:01:37 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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