Posted on 07/18/2015 11:11:54 AM PDT by Gamecock
God recorded, only He knows the number. We will have to wait, until we return to the Maker that sent us, for the unadulterated pure reality.
Lesson ought to be that all manner of ungodly acts have been carried out in the name of peoples gods. That cup of wrath is nearing the appointed time of pouring out.
There’s a difference between the number of people who the RCC outright killed, and those who died as a result if their actions in torturing.
If someone was released to later succomb to their injuries, that would not be counted.
There was no excuse whatsoever for a church of any kind, which names the name of Christ to engage in that kind of behavior.
They had Scripture, and they cannot claim the leading of the Holy Spirit. God would never sanction those kinds of actions or reactions to those outside the church.
A simple reading of the Beatitudes shows what God thinks of how we should treat those we consider our enemies.
Just demonstrates the hatred Catholics have for anyone who doesn’t toe the Roman line.
OK.
So that justifies the RCC’s actions?
Those others are unblievers.
They are only acting as you would expect unbelievers to act.
The RCC claims the moral high ground. It knew better.
There is no justification, no matter what the world around them was up to.
Sadly, considering the reactions of Catholics around me at work when I became born again, it’s not really that funny.
I can name a half dozen FReepers who have publicly posted that they'd like to see the Inquisitions started up again.
Hummmm I wonder if they would get names off the internet ??
Our chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear... fear and surprise... our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency... Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope... Our four... no... amongst our weapons.... amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I’ll come in again.
This was a religious war.
False; the Jews that died in the Inquisition were not Protestants. They were Jews who became Catholic in order to avoid being expelled from Spain. They remained Jews. They should have been loved and tolerated. It was an error of epic proportions.
metmom, my post, as I stated, was simply to refute the nonsense I constantly see online about how “Religion causes more wars and more deaths than anything” claims- You see these claims everywhere- and it’s a lie- Secularism or communism etc has been the major driver of wars- not religion-
People point to the crusades as their justification for hatign religion, and use that as their justification for making the false claim that ‘religion is the major cause of wars and deaths’- and nothing could be further from the truth- I’m not justifying what unsaved people did In the name of the RCC back when- they clearly were, in some instances, NOT doing the work of God, but rather of their father the Evil One, and it was very evident that God was not in them-
OK. I see what you were driving at.
My misunderstanding of the data you posted.
The point being that more wars are fought In the name of communism, and secularism and such than in the name of religion- Only 4% of all wars started (less than 4% actually) can be directly attributed to ‘Christianity’-
I read your entire post, you sound more like the anti-christ than Jesus Christ.
I am certainly glad that your particular group allows any manner of doctrines to be taught without regard to their orthodoxy. Must be an interesting place...confusing, but interesting.
Personally, I prefer the Scriptural action (see the original response in this thread).
Sounds about right; Christianity is not the threat to world peace.
“But there is considerable controversy about the accuracy of Llorente’s figures.”
Actually there’s no debate. All reputable scholars agree that Llorente was wrong and probably making the numbers up out of thin air.
The authority of the Inquisition was only over those baptised Catholics -- it did not prosecute more than 120 Protestants for the simple reason that there were hardly any Protestants in Spain -- it was not popular, being regarding as more a Germanic thing. There were 120 who were executed -- and that was 120 too many, but that is a small number compared to the rest of the religious wars fought in the same time period -- and remember that among those called Protestants - "Most of them were in no sense Protestants...Irreligious sentiments, drunken mockery, anticlerical expressions, were all captiously classified by the inquisitors (or by those who denounced the cases) as 'Lutheran.' " ---> we would not call such people Lutheran today
while other actions fit what you are saying, the spanish inquisition did not — it did execute 120 Protestants (too many), but the main target were conversos and moriscos, not Protestants
True. But in the case of the Spanish Armies, there were always inquisitors attached. Many atrocities committed by the Spanish army, probably had their blessings.
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