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How Many People Died in the Inquisition?
The Cripplegate ^ | FEBRUARY 28, 2015 | Nathan Busenitz

Posted on 07/18/2015 11:11:54 AM PDT by Gamecock

How Many Protestants Were Killed in the Inquisition?

A friend asked me that question earlier this week. And so I thought it might be helpful to share a few thoughts, from a historical perspective.

Opinions about how to answer the question vary widely. Some suggest that just a few thousand people were executed during the Inquisition, while others project that there were tens of millions of victims. So how can the estimates be so widely divergent?

There seem to be several explanations:

1. First, the imprecise nature of the historical records means that contemporary historians are forced to extrapolate on the basis of the limited information they possess.

One of the first accounts of the Inquisition came from a former Spanish secretary to the Inquisition named Juan Antonio Llorente (1756–1823). According to Llorente, the total number of “heretics” burned at the stake during the Spanish Inquisition totaled nearly 32,000. Llorente adds that another 300,000 were put on trial and forced to do penance (cf. Cecil Roth, The Spanish Inquisition [W. W. Norton, 1964; reprint, 1996], 123).

But there is considerable controversy about the accuracy of Llorente’s figures. As a result, historians must decide whether or not to take those numbers at face value. Some believe his numbers are too low, and should be adjusted higher. However, the majority of modern scholars believe his numbers are too high.

William D. Rubinstein summarizes the consensus of modern scholarship:

Nothing in the whole history of the Catholic church did more than the Inquisition to damn it in the eyes of rational, enlightened thinkers, or to give it the reputation for medieval barbarism it held in many quarters until recently. The Inquisition was only formally abolished in the early nineteenth century. Yet it also seems clear that the number of victims of the Inquisition can easily be exaggerated. Juan Antonio Llorente (1756–1823), a fierce enemy of the Inquisition, whose Critical History of the Inquisition of 1817–19 remains the most famous early work attacking everything connected with it, estimated the number of executions carried out during the whole of the period that the Spanish Inquisition existed, from 1483 until its abolition by Napoleon, at 31,912, with 291,450 “condemned to serve penances.” . . . Most recent historians regard even this figure as far too high (William D. Rubinstein, Genocide [Routledge, 2004], 34).

The conservative approach of modern scholarship can be seen in the writings of Henry Kamen, who is one of the leading authorities on the Spanish Inquisition. His work on The Spanish Inquisition is published by Yale University Press (Fourth Edition, 2014). Kamen’s research has led him to conclude: “We can in all probability accept the estimate, made on the basis of available documentation, that a maximum of three thousand persons may have suffered death during the entire history of the tribunal” (p. 253). Kamen’s estimates may be too low, but they represent the general perspective of contemporary scholars.

Modern historians also note that sixteenth-century Spain (during the height of the Spanish Inquisition) only had a total population of around 7.5 million people (cf. John Huxtable Elliott, Spain and Its World, 1500–1700 [Yale University Press, 1989], 223). Consequently, the notion that the Spanish Inquisition could be executing tens of millions of people during that same time period seems mathematically untenable.

2. Second, some earlier historians seem to have conflated the number of people killed with the number of people persecuted by the Inquisition. In other words, when they spoke of “victims of the Inquisition” they did not specify between those who were executed and those who were merely imprisoned or forced to flee because of the erupting persecution. Obviously, depending on how one defines a victim, the number of victims could vary widely. Perhaps only tens of thousands were executed, but hundreds of thousands were victimized in some way.

David Plaisted (a professor of computer science at UNC) notes that possibility in his paper titled, “Estimates of the Number Killed by the Papacy in the Middle Ages and Later” (http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/estimates.doc). He thinks the number of executions during the Spanish Inquisition could be quite a bit higher than just a few thousand. However, he acknowledges that the very large numbers (given by some earlier historians) might include everyone who was put on trial, and not just those who were killed. Also, some of the largest estimates likely include non-Protestants (such as Jewish and Muslim populations) who were expelled from Spain as a result of the persecution. If so, it helps explain where those very large estimates originated.

3. Third, confusion also stems from the conflation of the Inquisition with other events in European history. In the narrow sense, the term “Inquisition” refers to official trials conducted by Roman Catholic authorities in places like Spain and Portugal. When the question is limited to just those Inquisitions, the number of Protestants executed is likely in the thousands or tens of thousands.

However, if the term is used in a broad sense—to represent all Roman Catholic activity against non-Catholics—then the numbers rise dramatically. If the historian includes forms of torture and killing that did not involve a formal trial, along with religious wars and other forms of Catholic violence enacted against Protestants and other non-Catholics (in areas outside of Spain and Portugal), then one can easily speak in terms of millions of people who were killed.

David Plaisted acknowledges that reality in his study: namely, that the really big estimates of Protestants killed by the papacy throughout European history necessarily include those who died in religious conflicts like the Thirty Years War.

So … how many Protestants were killed during the Inquisition?

Well, that depends on how you are using the word “Inquisition.” And even then, the reality is that no one knows for sure.

However, if we are simply talking about official executions during the Spanish Inquisition, most contemporary experts would place the total number of executions between 3,000 and 10,000, with perhaps an additional 100,000 to 125,000 dying in prison as a result of torture and maltreatment. The Inquisition in neighboring Portugal resulted in even fewer such deaths (cf. Joseph Pérez, The Spanish Inquisition [Profile Books, 2006], 173; R. J. Rummel, Death by Government [Transaction Publishers, 2009], 62).


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; History; Mainline Protestant
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To: Gamecock

God recorded, only He knows the number. We will have to wait, until we return to the Maker that sent us, for the unadulterated pure reality.

Lesson ought to be that all manner of ungodly acts have been carried out in the name of peoples gods. That cup of wrath is nearing the appointed time of pouring out.


61 posted on 07/19/2015 3:09:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Gamecock

There’s a difference between the number of people who the RCC outright killed, and those who died as a result if their actions in torturing.

If someone was released to later succomb to their injuries, that would not be counted.

There was no excuse whatsoever for a church of any kind, which names the name of Christ to engage in that kind of behavior.

They had Scripture, and they cannot claim the leading of the Holy Spirit. God would never sanction those kinds of actions or reactions to those outside the church.

A simple reading of the Beatitudes shows what God thinks of how we should treat those we consider our enemies.


62 posted on 07/19/2015 5:45:50 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Just demonstrates the hatred Catholics have for anyone who doesn’t toe the Roman line.


63 posted on 07/19/2015 5:48:11 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: Bob434

OK.

So that justifies the RCC’s actions?

Those others are unblievers.

They are only acting as you would expect unbelievers to act.

The RCC claims the moral high ground. It knew better.

There is no justification, no matter what the world around them was up to.


64 posted on 07/19/2015 5:48:38 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Gamecock; RnMomof7

Sadly, considering the reactions of Catholics around me at work when I became born again, it’s not really that funny.


65 posted on 07/19/2015 5:53:22 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: RnMomof7; Gamecock
Good thing the torture has stopped., I live in an area that is 85% RC

I can name a half dozen FReepers who have publicly posted that they'd like to see the Inquisitions started up again.

66 posted on 07/19/2015 6:53:53 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
I can name a half dozen FReepers who have publicly posted that they'd like to see the Inquisitions started up again.

Hummmm I wonder if they would get names off the internet ??

67 posted on 07/19/2015 7:39:35 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Alex Murphy

Our chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear... fear and surprise... our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency... Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope... Our four... no... amongst our weapons.... amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I’ll come in again.


68 posted on 07/19/2015 7:42:12 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Bob434
30-Years War 1618-1648 Deaths= 5,750,000

This was a religious war.

69 posted on 07/19/2015 8:54:40 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: humblegunner
All of them.

False; the Jews that died in the Inquisition were not Protestants. They were Jews who became Catholic in order to avoid being expelled from Spain. They remained Jews. They should have been loved and tolerated. It was an error of epic proportions.

70 posted on 07/19/2015 9:00:56 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: metmom

metmom, my post, as I stated, was simply to refute the nonsense I constantly see online about how “Religion causes more wars and more deaths than anything” claims- You see these claims everywhere- and it’s a lie- Secularism or communism etc has been the major driver of wars- not religion-

People point to the crusades as their justification for hatign religion, and use that as their justification for making the false claim that ‘religion is the major cause of wars and deaths’- and nothing could be further from the truth- I’m not justifying what unsaved people did In the name of the RCC back when- they clearly were, in some instances, NOT doing the work of God, but rather of their father the Evil One, and it was very evident that God was not in them-


71 posted on 07/19/2015 11:51:15 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

OK. I see what you were driving at.

My misunderstanding of the data you posted.


72 posted on 07/19/2015 11:53:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981

The point being that more wars are fought In the name of communism, and secularism and such than in the name of religion- Only 4% of all wars started (less than 4% actually) can be directly attributed to ‘Christianity’-


73 posted on 07/19/2015 11:53:32 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: markomalley

I read your entire post, you sound more like the anti-christ than Jesus Christ.


74 posted on 07/19/2015 12:25:48 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life
I read your entire post, you sound more like the anti-christ than Jesus Christ.

I am certainly glad that your particular group allows any manner of doctrines to be taught without regard to their orthodoxy. Must be an interesting place...confusing, but interesting.

Personally, I prefer the Scriptural action (see the original response in this thread).

75 posted on 07/19/2015 12:43:19 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Bob434
The point being that more wars are fought In the name of communism, and secularism and such than in the name of religion- Only 4% of all wars started (less than 4% actually) can be directly attributed to ‘Christianity’-

Sounds about right; Christianity is not the threat to world peace.

76 posted on 07/19/2015 2:32:31 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Gamecock

“But there is considerable controversy about the accuracy of Llorente’s figures.”

Actually there’s no debate. All reputable scholars agree that Llorente was wrong and probably making the numbers up out of thin air.


77 posted on 07/20/2015 9:00:33 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: FredZarguna
The same authority that caused Elizabeth to persecute Catholics or the various Lutheran kings to do the same against Catholics and Calvinists and the Calvinist Netherlands and Geneva to do against Lutherans and Catholics -- the concept from Justinian times that the authority of the rulers came from God -- so if the ruler was a Lutheran, to follow something else was an act of treason.

The authority of the Inquisition was only over those baptised Catholics -- it did not prosecute more than 120 Protestants for the simple reason that there were hardly any Protestants in Spain -- it was not popular, being regarding as more a Germanic thing. There were 120 who were executed -- and that was 120 too many, but that is a small number compared to the rest of the religious wars fought in the same time period -- and remember that among those called Protestants - "Most of them were in no sense Protestants...Irreligious sentiments, drunken mockery, anticlerical expressions, were all captiously classified by the inquisitors (or by those who denounced the cases) as 'Lutheran.' " ---> we would not call such people Lutheran today

78 posted on 06/20/2016 4:38:52 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

while other actions fit what you are saying, the spanish inquisition did not — it did execute 120 Protestants (too many), but the main target were conversos and moriscos, not Protestants


79 posted on 06/20/2016 4:40:17 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Campion

True. But in the case of the Spanish Armies, there were always inquisitors attached. Many atrocities committed by the Spanish army, probably had their blessings.


80 posted on 06/20/2016 5:05:36 AM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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