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You Can Kill, but Don’t Murder: Clarifying the Sixth Commandment
National Review ^ | 12/02/2014 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 12/02/2014 7:40:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/02/2014 7:40:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Explain that it is “Thou shalt not murder” and hope the person you are explaining it to is not a KJV only nut.


2 posted on 12/02/2014 7:44:48 AM PST by sigzero
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To: SeekAndFind

Just another reason that eh KJV is an outdated version that should be retired.


3 posted on 12/02/2014 7:52:09 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Thou shalt not murder”, is the correct translation.

The Bible allows killing another human being so long as it is in defense of yourself, your family, or to prevent great bodily harm or injury to others.


4 posted on 12/02/2014 7:54:49 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: SeekAndFind
Because 400 years ago when the translation was made, “kill” was synonymous with “murder.”

If this is true, what word did Jacobeans use if they wanted to convey the concepts for which we would use the word "kill"? For example, "I will kill a chicken for supper," or "George was killed in a construction accident."

5 posted on 12/02/2014 7:55:01 AM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The NKJV corrects the error.
6 posted on 12/02/2014 7:58:13 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: Tax-chick

Animals are usually “slaughtered”. That’s why “Manslaughter” is a crime.

People just die in accidents. They are not killed.


7 posted on 12/02/2014 8:18:28 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: SeekAndFind
You Can Kill, but Don’t Murder

There needs to be an addedum, "And if you do kill somebody, make sure they're the same race as you."

8 posted on 12/02/2014 8:20:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

In Ebonics:

“Don’ ice ya bros.”


9 posted on 12/02/2014 8:21:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Just another reason that eh KJV is an outdated version that should be retired.”

The English language has evolved over 400 years, so the old Jacobian language is “outdated”, but the KJV was an excellent Bible for its era, having been translated by a large committee of the ablest scholars of ancient languages in England. Just be aware that some modern translations are taken from different ancient texts that are questionable. That is another topic that has been thoroughly beaten to death on FreeRepublic, so there is no point to rehash that here. Search, if you are interested.


10 posted on 12/02/2014 8:24:59 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: SpinnerWebb

It’s true that we could use those locutions. However, that does not demonstrate that they would be used in place of “kill” by contemporaries of the KJV.


11 posted on 12/02/2014 8:28:54 AM PST by Tax-chick (R.I.P., Dad, 11/25/14. Thanks for the lawyers, guns, and money.)
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To: SeekAndFind

God is prolife. God will always say “Thou shalt not kill.”


12 posted on 12/02/2014 8:29:11 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“God will always say “Thou shalt not kill.”

Explain Leviticus. “He who comes to kill you arise and kill him first.”

L


13 posted on 12/02/2014 8:33:01 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.d)
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To: sigzero

Sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I don’t...


14 posted on 12/02/2014 8:35:08 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Lurker; hiredhand

Mossad says its ok.....Im ba l’hargekha, hashkem l’hargo !!

Stay Safe !


15 posted on 12/02/2014 8:39:24 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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Matthew 5

21 "You have heard that it was said to the men of old, `You shall not kill; and whoever kills shall be liable to judgment.'

22 But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, `You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire.

23 So if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you,

24 leave your gift there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.

25 Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison;

26 truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.


16 posted on 12/02/2014 8:40:19 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Lurker

Christ came to fulfill the law.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3232896/posts?page=16#16


17 posted on 12/02/2014 8:42:30 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

Douay-Rheims somehow got the translation correct, and it was translated about the same amount of time ago.


18 posted on 12/02/2014 8:49:15 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: SeekAndFind

The Hebrew Talmud does indeed say: (derived from Deuteronomy 22:26): Habah l’hargecha hashkem l’hargo — “If someone is coming to kill you, rise against him and kill him first. However, it should never be done with glee.”


19 posted on 12/02/2014 8:50:28 AM PST by pabianice (LINE)
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To: Salvation

Where EXACTLY in scripture did Jesus say that it was always wrong to kill?

Wasn’t there something about millstones and the sea?


20 posted on 12/02/2014 8:50:52 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.d)
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