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What Pope Francis Meant to Say about the Origin of Priestly Celibacy
DavidLGray.INFO ^ | 07/13/2017 | David L. Gray (יוסף דוד)‎

Posted on 07/13/2014 4:52:15 PM PDT by yosephdaviyd

The third installment in Pope Francis’ series of interviews with atheist reporter Eugenio Scalfari took place on Thursday, July 10, 2014, and was published the following Sunday (07/13/14) in La Repubblica daily. Being that Scalfari doesn’t record these interviews on tape, but, rather, re-prints the dialogue based upon his memory of the interview, we can only say what the Pope Francis ‘allegedly’ said in them. One of the things that the Pope allegedly told Scalfari is that he wants to continue these interviews is because he “believes that an interview with a non-believer is mutually stimulating.” Typical of Scalfari’s interviews, Catholic bloggers will be spending the next few weeks talking about what Pope Francis meant to say in this one also. In the instant case, what Pope Francis allegedly said about the origin of priestly celibacy is sure to cause Catholic apologists to beat their head against a steel wall.

For centuries Protestants have been claiming and publishing tracts that say that the Catholic Church didn’t start teaching priestly celibacy until around 1079 A.D., and in refutations Catholic apologist have been pointing to Church documents, as far back as to the the second century, to prove that celibacy for the clergy has always been a discipline of Catholic Church in the West. Now comes along Pope Francis to give Protestant anti-Catholics the proof of what they have been telling Catholics along – that priestly celibacy is a modern innovation. Below is my translated text of that portion of the interview:

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: celibacy; popefrancis
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To: NKP_Vet

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


101 posted on 07/16/2014 7:54:34 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: CTrent1564

Thank you.


102 posted on 07/16/2014 8:16:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Religion Moderator

It was not personal, but even if it was why did it take so long to pull? As a religion mod, you should not pick and choose based on your anti-Catholicism. If my comments were pulled, then metmom’s should be also.


103 posted on 07/17/2014 8:42:16 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
Attributing motives to another poster is "making it personal." That is what you did in the removed post. It is also what you did in your post to me, i.e. attributing to me the motive of anti-Catholicism. That accusation, by the way, is blatantly false.

ad hominems are not tolerable in religious debate at all.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal. Discuss the message, not the messenger.

Also, when you mention another poster, be sure to ping him or her.

104 posted on 07/17/2014 9:46:06 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

No, they were removed after being up for quite a while because of a petty FReeper. If mine were removed then there are many others that must be removed as well. It is very obvious to whom you are catering.


105 posted on 07/17/2014 9:53:48 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: yosephdaviyd

Why doesn’t he just say what he “meant” to say?


106 posted on 07/17/2014 9:57:04 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Advanced technological development.)
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To: goodwithagun

goodwithagun:

You need to learn rules here, wink wink!


107 posted on 07/18/2014 8:12:43 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564

Yes. I must learn my place and follow the rules made up as they go along ;)


108 posted on 07/18/2014 8:35:25 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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