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1 posted on 10/31/2013 3:38:03 AM PDT by rhema
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“I didn’t leave the Lutheran Church, the Lutheran Church left me.”


2 posted on 10/31/2013 3:41:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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They should be sued for using the name “Lutheran.” There is no Lutheran doctrine being preached in that denomination. It’s really “The Church of What’s Happenin’ Now,” of the old Flip Wilson comedy show....only they won’t be laughing on Judgment Day when these unfaithful stewards are asked to give an account to their faithfulness to Scripture. And that day will come, because Jesus said so.


3 posted on 10/31/2013 3:46:37 AM PDT by txrefugee
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People of all denominations are voting with their feet.

I was a cradle Episcopalian—No more.


5 posted on 10/31/2013 4:27:49 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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So, the ELCA appears to have joined the Unitarian Universalists.


7 posted on 10/31/2013 4:29:49 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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Why are Protestants upset by Bolz-Weber or any of the other bizarre things going on in Protestantism?

Seriously, how can members of a group of sects founded on rebellion and revolutionary theology based on the interpretation of scripture separate from that of all Christian tradition be upset by someone like Bolz-Weber? Bolz-Weber is just the female, tattooed Martin Luther of her day: http://www.nadiabolzweber.com/media


9 posted on 10/31/2013 4:50:20 AM PDT by vladimir998
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I'm not far from an ELCA seminary that is mentioned, and depending on the particular day, it could either be a sad or a truly creepy place to walk into. The vestiges of Christianity were there, but they did not effectively camouflage the new paradigm. There were - and are, but I speak in the past tense because I no longer have any reason to even drive past the place - professors emeritus (IOW, who were old enough to know better) that were outspoken global socialists, pan-homosexualists and virulent "pro-Palestinians" (they seem to prefer the term "anti-zionists," but they embrace The Fat Doctor at his worst and then build on it). Yeah, the bumper stickers, posters, and various "theses nailed to the doors" - so to speak - that let you know everyone is loud, proud and filled with the spirit of social justice, though not necessarily enamored of the Gospels as written.

Having been raised in what became an ELCA church, their apostasy has left me embittered towards them, but not nearly as embittered as they seem to be towards the Bible. This denomination can't run out of self-delusional old peoples' money soon enough.

Mr. niteowl77

10 posted on 10/31/2013 4:51:56 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("If John McCain isn't the actual bottom of the GOP barrel, you don't want to see what's underneath.")
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Don’t want to jump to judgment considering this Pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber but she seems to be tattooed up and you can see her here: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones/2011/06/28/the-wild-goose-festival-the-talks/ Also, looks like she was at the 2011 Wild Goose Festival in NC. This Wild Goose Festival was mentioned in this forum the other day. Her website: http://www.nadiabolzweber.com/latest-sermons May try and read a sermon to see what this person is about.


11 posted on 10/31/2013 4:53:07 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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America has heaped to itself teachers. with itching ears we have been turned from the truth—turned to the lie and like
Jerusalem in the days of the great Prophets we are too proud to even see our sin.For we have told everyone God will NOT see.Or God will approve.


16 posted on 10/31/2013 5:28:00 AM PDT by Robert Burkholder
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That’s pretty much the essence of “liberalism” in general - thinking they know better than God. Judging His ways by their own standards.


17 posted on 10/31/2013 5:30:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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I’m sorry the Evangelical Lutheran Church has fallen so far. I’ve had many wonderful neighbors and friends over the years who were devout members of our local ELCA congregation. Sadly, many of them have died or moved away and I don’t know if those ones have switched churches (as I suspect they have).


21 posted on 10/31/2013 5:41:19 AM PDT by old and tired
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The reason we left the ELCA is their support, regardless of the amount, of Re-Imagining Workshops. One speaker was quoted to say that something like ‘we don’t need the blood of Jesus or him hanging on a cross’; used milk and honey for communion which symbolized the fluids from a woman’s body and worshiped a female goddess symbol named Sophia which they claimed was in the Bible. As sad as it is, I am not surprised at what you found in your seminary.


26 posted on 10/31/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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They are now an atheistic cult. That is all.


31 posted on 10/31/2013 9:19:27 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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From a Pastor Brock quote in the comments of the article:
Pastor Brock writes on his website [ pastorsstudy.org ]:

". . . On October 20th, I will preach on Minneapolis TV a program entitled “God’s Three-fold Cure for America” (you can watch it on our website at pastorsstudy.org soon). In it I state that in my 60 years of life I have never seen America go downhill so fast as I have this past year. Then I preach on the three-fold cure from 2 Chronicles 7:14:

1. God’s people (the Church!) must humble itself
2. The Church must pray
3. We must turn from wickedness

Then, and only then, does 2 Chronicles promise God will heal our land.

This is not necessarily in error, but is inaccurate. Our language has been sullied by the godless Left, and what used to have clear mean has now been perverted to their own ends.

Point 1 - Fake homo-ficated "church" members would heartily agree that biblical Christians should "humble" themselves by capitulating on the new, perverted doctrine of homosexual acceptance. Now, "humble" has been revised.

Point 2 - Of course the sodomite church invaders would encourage everyone to pray. But prayer can be WRONG on so many occasions for so many reasons. There are times that God told his people to get off their knees and REPENT.

Point 3 - "We must turn from wickedness." Again, the homo-Left has completely turned around morality, calling "good evil, and evil good," so such an admonition is almost rendered meaningless.

The last sentence refers only to God's chosen nation, Israel. Although the principles of blessing apply to any group of people who will recognize His Authority of their lives, the promise to "heal their land" is to Israel solely.

33 posted on 10/31/2013 9:33:19 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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ELCA has committed suicide. It may be waning, and its death kick may not come for awhile, but it is already dead to me.


40 posted on 10/31/2013 5:55:03 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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And just to be clear: The cross is not about God as divine child abuser sadly sending his little boy off to be killed because we were bad and well, somebody had to pay.

The little heretic is correct, but she doesn't realize why. God willingly got on the cross himself.

43 posted on 11/04/2013 1:19:44 PM PST by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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Notice this Preacher is one of the stories at Drudge Report right now:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/bolz-webers-liberal-foulmouthed-articulation-of-christianity-speaks-to-fed-up-believers/2013/11/03/7139dc24-3cd3-11e3-a94f-b58017bfee6c_story.html

“Bolz-Weber’s liberal, foulmouthed articulation of Christianity speaks to fed-up believers”


44 posted on 11/04/2013 8:14:05 PM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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