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The "Apocrypha": Why It's Part of the Bible
Biblical Evidence for Catholicism ^ | Friday, November 10, 2006 | Dave Armstrong

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The Old Testament in Catholic Bibles contains seven more books than are found in Protestant Bibles (46 and 39, respectively). Protestants call these seven books the Apocrypha and Catholics know them as the deuterocanonical books. These seven books are: Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Ecclesiasticus (or, Sirach), and Baruch. Also, Catholic Bibles contain an additional six chapters (107 verses) in the book of Esther and another three in the book of Daniel (174 verses). These books and chapters were found in Bible manuscripts in Greek only, and were not part of the Hebrew Canon of the Old Testament, as determined by the Jews.

All of these were dogmatically acknowledged as Scripture at the Council of Trent in 1548 (which means that Catholics were henceforth not allowed to question their canonicity), although the tradition of their inclusion was ancient. At the same time, the Council rejected 1 and 2 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasses as part of Sacred Scripture (these are often included in collections of the "Apocrypha" as a separate unit).

The Catholic perspective on this issue is widely misunderstood. Protestants accuse Catholics of "adding" books to the Bible, while Catholics retort that Protestants have "booted out" part of Scripture. Catholics are able to offer very solid and reasonable arguments in defense of the scriptural status of the deuterocanonical books. These can be summarized as follows:

1) They were included in the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament from the third century B.C.), which was the "Bible" of the Apostles. They usually quoted the Old Testament scriptures (in the text of the New Testament) from the Septuagint.

2) Almost all of the Church Fathers regarded the Septuagint as the standard form of the Old Testament. The deuterocanonical books were in no way differentiated from the other books in the Septuagint, and were generally regarded as canonical. St. Augustine thought the Septuagint was apostolically-sanctioned and inspired, and this was the consensus in the early Church.

3) Many Church Fathers (such as St. Irenaeus, St. Cyprian, Tertullian) cite these books as Scripture without distinction. Others, mostly from the east (for example, St. Athanasius, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Gregory Nazianzus) recognized some distinction but nevertheless still customarily cited the deuterocanonical books as Scripture. St. Jerome, who translated the Hebrew Bible into Latin (the Vulgate, early fifth century), was an exception to the rule (the Church has never held that individual Fathers are infallible).

4) The Church Councils at Hippo (393) and Carthage (397, 419), influenced heavily by St. Augustine, listed the deuterocanonical books as Scripture, which was simply an endorsement of what had become the general consensus of the Church in the west and most of the east. Thus, the Council of Trent merely reiterated in stronger terms what had already been decided eleven and a half centuries earlier, and which had never been seriously challenged until the onset of Protestantism.

5) Since these Councils also finalized the 66 canonical books which all Christians accept, it is quite arbitrary for Protestants to selectively delete seven books from this authoritative Canon. This is all the more curious when the complicated, controversial history of the New Testament Canon is understood.

6) Pope Innocent I concurred with and sanctioned the canonical ruling of the above Councils (Letter to Exsuperius, Bishop of Toulouse) in 405.

7) The earliest Greek manuscripts of the Old Testament, such as Codex Sinaiticus (fourth century), and Codex Alexandrinus (c.450) include all of the deuterocanonical books mixed in with the others and not separated.

8) The practice of collecting these books into a separate unit dates back no further than 1520 (in other words, it was a novel innovation of Protestantism). This is admitted by, for example, the Protestant New English Bible (Oxford University Press, 1976), in its "Introduction to the Apocrypha," (p.iii).

9) Protestantism, following Martin Luther, removed the deuterocanonical books from their Bibles due to their clear teaching of doctrines which had been recently repudiated by Protestants, such as prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12, 2 Maccabees 12:39-45 ff.; cf. 1 Corinthians 15:29), intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14; cf. Revelation 6:9-10), and intermediary intercession of angels (Tobit 12:12,15; cf. Revelation 5:8, 8:3-4). We know this from plain statements of Luther and other Reformers.

10) Luther was not content even to let the matter rest there, and proceeded to cast doubt on many other books of the Bible which are accepted as canonical by all Protestants. He considered Job and Jonah mere fables, and Ecclesiastes incoherent and incomplete. He wished that Esther (along with 2 Maccabees) "did not exist," and wanted to "toss it into the Elbe" river.

[Later clarifying note, added on 9-13-07: the red words I no longer agree with, as stated, based on subsequent in-depth research that I have undertaken since 1994, when this was written (perhaps it was written as early as 1991). Like any careful, conscientious researcher, I sometimes (gladly) modify -- even sometimes reverse -- earlier understandings with further study. For my current opinions on Luther and the canon, see:

Luther's Outrageous Assertions About Certain Biblical Books

Did Martin Luther Deny the Canonicity of Esther? ]


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The New Testament fared scarcely better under Luther's gaze. He rejected from the New Testament Canon ("chief books") Hebrews, James ("epistle of straw"), Jude and Revelation, and placed them at the end of his translation, as a New Testament "Apocrypha." He regarded them as non-apostolic. Of the book of Revelation he said, "Christ is not taught or known in it." These opinions are found in Luther's Prefaces to biblical books, in his German translation of 1522.

[Later clarifying note, added on 9-13-07: Luther softened or rejected these more radical opinions in later, revised prefaces, some 20 years later, so that I would write this portion of my first book differently today, in light of my research done since 1994]
12) Although the New Testament does not quote any of these books directly, it does closely reflect the thought of the deuterocanonical books in many passages. For example, Revelation 1:4 and 8:3-4 appear to make reference to Tobit 12:15:St. Paul, in 1 Corinthians 15:29, seems to have 2 Maccabees 12:44 in mind. This saying of Paul is one of the most difficult in the New Testament for Protestants to interpret, given their theology:

This passage of St. Paul shows that it was the custom of the early Church to watch, pray and fast for the souls of the deceased. In Scripture, to be baptized is often a metaphor for affliction or (in the Catholic understanding) penance (for example, Matthew 3:11, Mark 10:38-39, Luke 3:16, 12:50). Since those in heaven have no need of prayer, and those in hell can't benefit from it, these practices, sanctioned by St. Paul, must be directed towards those in purgatory. Otherwise, prayers and penances for the dead make no sense, and this seems to be largely what Paul is trying to bring out. The "penance interpretation" is contextually supported by the next three verses, where St. Paul speaks of "Why am I in peril every hour? . . . I die every day," and so forth.

As a third example, Hebrews 11:35 mirrors the thought of 2 Maccabees 7:29:

13) Ironically, in some of the same verses where the New Testament is virtually quoting the "Apocrypha," doctrines are taught which are rejected by Protestantism, and which were a major reason why the deuterocanonical books were "demoted" by them. Therefore, it was not as easy to eliminate these disputed doctrines from the Bible as it was (and is) supposed, and Protestants still must grapple with much New Testament data which does not comport with their beliefs.

14) Despite this lowering of the status of the deuterocanonical books by Protestantism, they were still widely retained separately in Protestant Bibles for a long period of time (unlike the prevailing practice today). John Wycliffe, considered a forerunner of Protestantism, included them in his English translation. Luther himself kept them separately in his Bible, describing them generally as (although sub-scriptural) "useful and good to read." Zwingli and the Swiss Protestants, and the Anglicans maintained them in this secondary sense also. The English Geneva Bible (1560) and Bishop's Bible (1568) both included them as a unit. Even the Authorized, or King James Version of 1611 contained the "Apocrypha" as a matter of course. And up to the present time many Protestant Bibles continue this practice. The revision of the King James Bible (completed in 1895) included these books, as did the Revised Standard Version (1957), the New English Bible (1970), and the Goodspeed Bible (1939), among others.

15) The deuterocanonical books are read regularly in public worship in Anglicanism, and also among the Eastern Orthodox, and most Protestants and Jews fully accept their value as historical and religious documents, useful for teaching, even though they deny them full canonical status.

It is apparent, then, that the Catholic "case" for these scriptural books carries a great deal of weight, certainly at the very least equal to the Protestant view.

Written in 1996 by Dave Armstrong. Included in A Biblical Defense of Catholicism: pp. 259-264.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; deuterocanonicals; scripture
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To: narses

Sam Kinneson died years ago.


61 posted on 10/28/2013 8:19:11 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: Iscool

There is a deeper root here. It is called antisemitism.


62 posted on 10/28/2013 8:20:23 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“The rest of the claims, I think, are largely satisfied with what has already been provided, especially by one of their own Cardinals in Luther’s day.”

You probably mean Cardinal Cajetan - and on that score he was as wrong as Luther. It wasn’t the only thing he was wrong on either. The issue was decided long before he was born, however, so it simply didn’t matter what his view was in that regard.

You might want to read Sid Leimann’s book, The Canonization of Hebrew Scripture.

“Anything else is simply revisionist history on the part of the RCC.”

Nope.

You might want to read Sid Z. Leiman’s book, The Canonization of Hebrew Scripture.


63 posted on 10/28/2013 8:43:33 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

“You probably mean Cardinal Cajetan - and on that score he was as wrong as Luther.”


And your evidence of that is Rome’s modern day claims, but the historical record doesn’t support it.

“You might want to read Sid Leimann’s book, The Canonization of Hebrew Scripture.”


If he’s as offensive as what comes off the Vatican’s own website, I’m not sure that I’ll want to.


64 posted on 10/28/2013 8:46:05 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: redleghunter

There are many. Some can be debated whether the parallel is coincidental, but these are my favorites:

Sirach 51 is quoted by Mt 11:28-30
Tobit 12:15 is confirmed by Rev 8:2
Sirach 27:6 is referenced by Judith 11:19
1 Peter 1:17 - God judging each one according to his deeds refers to Sirach 16:12 - God judges man according to his deeds.
1 Peter 1:6-7 “as gold tested by fire” is taken from Wisdom 3:6
James 2:23 “it was reckoned to him as righteousness” quotes 1 Macc 2:53
Heb 11:35 refers to the historical events of 2 Macc 7
Heb 11:5 tells us the fate of Enoch, recorded in Sir 44:16, beyond what is known from Gen 5:24
Eph 6:14 uses identical imagery from Wisdom 5:18
Romans 1:20 would be baseless speculation if not for Wis 13:1
Mary’s utterance in Luke 1:52 is from Sir 10:14
Herod’s decree in 2:16 is prophecies in Wisdom 11:7
Wisdom 2:16 is the only place in the Old Testament wherein it is foretold that the Messiah will call God his Father.
John 10:22 depicts Jesus celebrating the Feast of the Dedication, set forth in 1 Macc 4:59
Further, Jesus self-identifies with the Temple, on this feast, comparing his own dedication to his father with the Temple’s dedication in 1 Macc 4:36


67 posted on 10/28/2013 9:46:16 PM PDT by dangus
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To: narses

Bwahahahaha...nice. However I don’t see a kosher symbol on this cereal...


68 posted on 10/28/2013 9:55:57 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: dangus

I’ll take the first one Sirach 51. Matthew 11:28-30 is not a quote at all. In three verses you have key words of “yoke” and “rest.” The context of Sirach is discipline. The context of Matthew is hope.

The rest I will address tomorrow.


69 posted on 10/28/2013 10:08:10 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: OldNewYork
Thanks for posting this.

You're welcome.

70 posted on 10/28/2013 10:08:35 PM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

If Athanasius is saying that these are not part of scripture, but shall be taught to those seeking instruction in the ways of Godliness, what is he saying? Is he directly contradicting the Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura? Moreover, his list is utterly confuses as to what constitutes scripture and what doesn’t; it shows the need for the Church to identify what is scripture and what isn’t, ebacuse Athanasius certainly cannot tell: he falsely asserts that Esther is not canon at all, and includes the Didache (teaching of the 12) and the Shepherd of Hermes as part of the New Testament. Why would you cite him as expert?

You also cite Rufinus, the heretic denounced by Jerome, and leap all the way forward 1,000 years to include Cardinal Cajetan, who met Luther half way, being convinced by Luther of Luther’s canon, but obviously breaking from the Catholic Church. Why?

As for Jerome, I can only repeat that so many times in one thread.


71 posted on 10/28/2013 10:09:32 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Of course, if you are looking for scandal, it is in the quotes from the New American Bible, which sadly had to be contradicted by encyclicals by Pope John Paul II and Pope Bendict XVI, affirming the historicity of the bible. The first edition had frequent denials of the historicity of several books, including a bizarre illustration of the supposed biblical view of the structre of the Earth in Genesis 1. The Second edition included John Paul II’s encylical, as if contradicting itself. FInally, the third edition removed the worst offenses, while retain John Paul II’s encyclical.

So there is nothing unique about the objections raised in the New American Bible in regards to Judith, that is not raised in reference to Genesis 1-11, and many other passages wherein the New American Bible followed the history of secularists over that of the Word of God.


72 posted on 10/28/2013 10:15:38 PM PDT by dangus
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To: redleghunter

Incidentally, Jesus identifying himself as the Temple in the context of the Dedication of the Temple is the biblical source for the date of Christmas:

On the feast of the Dedication, God once again dwelt among Man in the Temple. But the Temple altar was destroyed by earthquake when Jesus was crucified, because the Temple merely prefigured the Incarnation. The FEast of the Dedication, then, really celebrates God dwelling among Man as Christ. And when did this Feast occur? On the 25th of the month closest to December. It’s often significantly before Christmas; you’ll have a sense of when it falls because it is the last day of Hannukah.

(Chuch Fathers also cite the 9th month after March 25th, the date they believed that Christ died on the cross. This was based on the ancient belief that prophets died — or were conceived into HEaven — on the day of the year that they were conceived into the world. But you’ll notice that if you stay in the Hebrew calendar, you’ll find yourself 11 days off of 9 months.)


73 posted on 10/28/2013 10:27:05 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

“Of course, if you are looking for scandal, it is in the quotes from the New American Bible, which sadly had to be contradicted by encyclicals by Pope John Paul II and Pope Bendict XVI, affirming the historicity of the bible. “


Well that explains why I got it from the Vatican’s website!


74 posted on 10/28/2013 11:04:23 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: dangus

“If Athanasius is saying that these are not part of scripture, but shall be taught to those seeking instruction in the ways of Godliness, what is he saying? Is he directly contradicting the Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura?”


I have no idea how you are coming to that conclusion. There’s a big difference between “not to be used for doctrine” and “may be used for edification.” If someone wants to read about Judith for what it is, a fictional story, by all means, do so. Maccabees is actual history too, even though it does not pretend to be holy scripture. But don’t demand we shelve our brains away and make them what they are not, and have never been, nor even claim to be.

“Moreover, his list is utterly confuses as to what constitutes scripture and what doesn’t; it shows the need for the Church to identify what is scripture and what isn’t, ebacuse Athanasius certainly cannot tell:”


He can’t be as confused as your grammar!

“he falsely asserts that Esther is not canon at all, and includes the Didache (teaching of the 12) and the Shepherd of Hermes as part of the New Testament. Why would you cite him as expert?”


You’re pulling stuff out your butt. Read slowly:

“But for the sake of greater exactness I add this also, writing under obligation, as it were. There are other books besides these, indeed not received as canonical but having been appointed by our fathers to be read to those just approaching and wishing to be instructed in the word of godliness: Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobit, and that which is called the Teaching of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. But the former [standard new and old testament canon], my brethren, are included in the Canon, the latter being merely read.” (Thirty-Ninth Festal Epistle, A.D. 367.)

He doesn’t endorse the Shepard or the teaching of the Apostles as doctrine making books. He lists them as books to be read for edification. Why not? They included LOTS of books under that designation. The Didache condemns abortion specifically and is not all bad. Hermes has a bad rap, since its wording is imprecise in its instruction on the Trinity, if I recall correctly. Though I’ve read research on the matter that says it is simply misunderstood. (It was written in a day when attacks on the Trinity had not yet sharpened our blade.) Athanasius is no heretic on those matters, if you take the time to read his books on the matter. Irenaeus recommended the Shepard be read too, since it was a book written in his own day by a Christian.

And why do I cite him? It’s simple. He doesn’t agree with you, and the basis of your claims is that everybody has always agreed with you with a single, unchanging tradition since Pope Peter was given the keys to heaven. Right?


75 posted on 10/28/2013 11:21:43 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: vladimir998

“Look in an Eastern Orthodox Bible and you’ll find them there.”

Interesting. Thanks for the information - I didn’t know, and haven’t ever opened an Eastern Orthodox Bible before.


76 posted on 10/29/2013 1:44:34 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Don’t spam me, bro. Kindly remove me from your multiple-user response lists in future and address me personally if you have something to say to me. Thanks.


77 posted on 10/29/2013 1:48:30 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: OldNewYork

By the way, if you want a really neat Eastern Orthodox Bible (sadly it has about two anti-Catholic statements in it - for lack of better way to put it), I strongly recommend this one: http://www.amazon.com/The-Orthodox-Study-Bible-Christianity/dp/0718003594 The New Testament text is the New King James Version while the Old Testament is a new translation of the Septuagint. Overall the notes are excellent.


78 posted on 10/29/2013 5:12:00 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“And your evidence of that is Rome’s modern day claims, but the historical record doesn’t support it.”

Nope. My evidence for that is the councils and synods that happened BEFORE Cajetan was even born. You really need to learn. Try reading a book.

“If he’s as offensive as what comes off the Vatican’s own website, I’m not sure that I’ll want to.”

Any excuse to not read a book, huh? Yeah, why let learning interfere with sciolism, right?


79 posted on 10/29/2013 5:15:19 AM PDT by vladimir998
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