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Nearly everyone who dies and comes back tells almost the exact same story. Why is that, do you think?
1 posted on 10/27/2013 4:21:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Nearly everyone who dies and comes back tells almost the exact same story. Why is that, do you think?

I don’t know and I am not willing to die for 9 minutes to find out. Although I believe in God, I have a few things that need doing here before I leave.


2 posted on 10/27/2013 4:26:53 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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At the age of three, McVea started to be sexually abused by her drug and alcohol-addicted step father and that abuse continued by him and others until the age of 12.

Satan thinks he knows what he is doing. This poor little girl lived with the Devil for a decade, and he almost led her astray because of it. It must be frustrating to put that much work into destroying a soul and then lose because God puts 9 minutes into saving her.

3 posted on 10/27/2013 4:26:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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If she died why is she still here? Since when is death a temporary condition?


4 posted on 10/27/2013 4:29:55 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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Really great story. But when I arrested, I didn’t see God, my departed relatives or friends, or even “the light.” Or maybe I just don’t remember. I do recall a series of short dreams, including one where I was bicycling. In all of these dreams, my legs were moving. When I was brought back, I was told they had to use the paddles on me 7 times. That was probably what I was feeling when my legs moved.

I wish I could have seen God or my departed loved ones. Somehow I feel cheated. But I am grateful to Him for giving me a second chance.


5 posted on 10/27/2013 4:32:36 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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Nearly everyone who dies and comes back tells almost the exact same story. Why is that, do you think?

I think that I wonder what Muslims who experience near death come back and say.

7 posted on 10/27/2013 4:34:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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Athiest: Oh you know...of all the the things you could hallucinate about when you die with your brain shutting down and all it has to be those darn pesky angels, Heaven, and God. Why not unicorns, rainbows, and leprechauns?...


8 posted on 10/27/2013 4:34:36 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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"when she was accidentally overdosed on pain medication"

Expect to see a lot more of that under Obamacare.
12 posted on 10/27/2013 4:41:51 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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I believe in God and an afterlife. But I tend to not make much of these stories. I think it is an overactive imagination at work, and uses common symbols for the dying experience (heaven, pearly gates, etc for some, darkness for others).

These stories tell us more about the people involved, and not much about the existence of an afterlife.


13 posted on 10/27/2013 4:42:13 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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"Nearly everyone who dies and comes back tells almost the exact same story."

That is simply not the case. There are a number of variants in these stories, including some who tell of glimpses of hell and a horrific afterlife.

But by far, the most believable tale I have heard is this one, in which the reality of *both* heaven and hell is retold.

Most compelling is his perception of the true nature of eternity, as opposed to our temporal existence.

"Time is a gift, given to man by a merciful God, to keep him from having to comprehend everything happening all at once."
15 posted on 10/27/2013 4:42:53 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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It’s comforting to think that those I’ve loved who have died have been greeted and welcomed with love and warmth. What upsets me most other than their absence is wondering whether it hurt, were they afraid, and I just couldn’t do anything for them.

Most of these near death experiences bring to mind the Old Testament concept of being gathered unto one’s people. It’s too comforting, though. So, I set it aside as a nice thought, maybe a merciful hallucination and leave it at that.

I’ll know when my time comes.


35 posted on 10/27/2013 5:08:25 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I have no idea what happened to her, but bare belief in God will do nothing for a man’s soul. Christ is the only way to God the Father.

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Hebrews 4:12)

And I know the Master and His apostles raised the dead, but He is on His throne at the right hand of God the Father and the apostles are long dead, so this verse comes to mind:

“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27)


39 posted on 10/27/2013 5:32:53 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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Fairly typical NDE (Near Death ... should probably be re-phrased "Temporarily Dead" ... Experience). There are far too many cases where people leave for that Unknown Land and do return to tell the story. Combine that with what modern physics tells us about the fact that reality is a construct created micromoment to micromoment by conscious observation and it takes the convoluted rationalization of a truly "superior" intellect to work its way out of recognizing the obvious.
44 posted on 10/27/2013 6:42:11 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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It was 1989, I was on a cruise that stopped in Saint Thomas, and I took the side trip to St Johns.. There weren’t many people on the beach and the snorkeling was great.. When I came up from the water, I saw a small girl flaying away on the horizon, and quickly made my way to her aid..

When I arrived she grabbed me and began to claw at me, climbing atop me.. I had all I could do to stay afloat, but managed to calm her down, but I was completely spent.. I took off my vest and got it on her, and sent her toward to beach, as I tried to recover by treading the water..

In doing so I laid back and floated on my back, but drifted further out to sea.. When I realized that I had floated far away from the beach, I almost paniced.. I have never been a strong swimmer, but being already exhausted I tried to swim back to the nearest shore, but it was near impossible to make any headway, and now the only shore was total rocks..

I realized I didn’t have the strength to make the effort and just laid back not even stroking anymore.. I began to sink, and allowed myself to just drift under the water.. The panic was totally gone and as I went deeper I accepted what apparently what was my fate..

An incredible peace overcame me as I watched the surface light grow blur as I went deeper.. I opened my mouth and breathed in the water, and choked and shortly passed out, but without any fear, just peacefully..

Suddenly, a bright light began to appear, and blurred figures became clearer, that lead me closer to the brightness.. It was amazing, I was happier than I had ever been, the tranquility was overwhelming.. My Mother was there, in her beautiful, and much younger self, and she smiled at me and lead me closer to the presence of light..

I heard my Mom ask me if I wanted to stay, and I said yes, yes, but she asked if I was through with my work back home..
My older children were beginning their lives but my boys were still young and I thought they still needed me..

Then a voice that I could never describe in any words, told me there would always be a place for me if I decided to finish my work back home.. Suddenly all of my family that had passed were all around me smiling and I turned and started to walk back, but sorry to leave..

I then coughed and I was back in the water and paddling back to the surface.. I had recovered my strength and made it back to the rocks, but couldn’t climb up the steep slimy rock faces, but a man in a white silk suit, stretched an umbrella to me and together he and I pulled myself up to the sandy shore..

When I looked up to thank him, he was gone, and nowhere in sight.. No one was even close and I was a half mile from the beach.. I laid there for what seemed like an hour, then made my way back to the beach and on to the tender back to the ship.. I was seriously burned, and spent the rest of the cruise in my cabin, covered in a cream that the doctors gave me..

I can’t describe my experience any better that this, but my entire life changed after that, I am different with a lot more peace and happier than I had ever been before.. I was never much of a religious man, and still am not but I am a believer, and nothing will ever change that.. EVER!


46 posted on 10/27/2013 6:57:03 AM PDT by carlo3b (RUFFLE FEATHERS, and destroy their FEATHER NEST!)
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Perhaps because it is true. there are 4 links to similar stories on the Daily Mail site. These are testimonies of people’s experiences. We should examine them, but NOT base our personal belief in God on them.


51 posted on 10/27/2013 7:11:59 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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What is important is the number of non-believers who have this experience.

As for: “Neuroscientist Dean Mobb explained in Scientific American that these experiences have a biological answer in the side effects of medicinal and recreational drugs.”

He “explains” NOTHING!!
He makes an unsubstantiated assertion.

These experiences are well documented in thousands of cases where NO DRUGS are involved.


58 posted on 10/27/2013 8:10:26 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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I would love to set down and have a long talk with her.

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Isa 6:1 - In the year that King Uzziah died I then saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and His train filled the temple.
2 - Above it stood the seraphs; each one had six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.
3 - And one cried to another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is Jehovah of Hosts; the whole earth full of His glory.
4 - And the doorposts moved at the voice of the one who cried, and the house was filled with smoke.
5 - Then I said, Woe is me! For I am undone; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, Jehovah of Hosts.
6 - Then one of the seraphs flew to me, having a live coal in his hand, snatched with tongs from the altar.
7 - And he laid it on my mouth and said, Lo, this has touched your lips; and your iniquity is taken away, and your sin purged.
8 - And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then I said, Here am I; send me!

61 posted on 10/27/2013 8:39:42 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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Reversing Death In The Emergency Room: Doctors Detail Frontline Of Resuscitation Science
66 posted on 10/27/2013 9:53:31 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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Anything is possible with God! I like the story of this priest: http://catholicfaithdefender.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/a-priest-who-saw-heaven-hell-and-purgatory-the-death-experience-of-father-jose-maniyangat/

who is spoken about during this homily: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubjToeIOww8
69 posted on 10/27/2013 10:30:58 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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There is the kid that died and came back, basis of the book, which also confirms scripture, “Heaven is for Real”.


70 posted on 10/27/2013 10:40:10 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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As a child I was very ill. One particular night I was especially bad, and I remember seeing a brilliant light- but instead of feeling peace and joy it frightened me.
My mother told me I cried out ‘It’s too big!’ ‘The light’s too big’.
I’ve come to believe that the light I saw was what NDE people see, but why did it frighten me?

I was an innocent child. I couldn’t have been headed for purgatory.


77 posted on 10/27/2013 1:13:44 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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