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Former religious skeptic believes she talked to God during the 9 minutes she was dead
The London Daily Mail ^ | October 26, 2013 | Ashley Collman

Posted on 10/27/2013 4:21:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

An Oklahoma woman says she's a firm believer in God after meeting him during the nine minutes she died in 2009.

Crystal McVea is a 36-year-old married school teacher and mother of four who didn't quite believe in God for most of her life.

At the age of three, McVea started to be sexually abused by her drug and alcohol-addicted step father and that abuse continued by him and others until the age of 12.

Those experiences made her second guess from a young age whether or not God existed, and if he did, whether he loved her.

'I saw a lot of things that children shouldn't see,' she told WFAA. 'I always believed that God had abandoned me, that he didn't save me, that he didn't love me and I questioned if he was real.'

Then, when she was a teenager, she had an abortion. A choice she believed cemented her position as a sinner.

'After that abortion I thought, "I've done it now - if he was real, he could never love me now,"' she told The Blaze.

In December 2009, McVea was taken to the hospital to be treated for pancreatitis when she was accidentally overdosed on pain medication.

The last thing McVea remembers is being given the drugs and falling asleep. For the next nine minutes, doctors struggled to revive her as her heart stopped beating.

McVea says she was in a more peaceful place. After closing her eyes in the hospital, the next thing she remembers is waking up in heaven.

'I was standing in the most gorgeous light and instantly I recognized where I was. I knew who I was, I knew where I was...' she recalls.

In heaven, time seemed to stand still....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Science; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: abortion; afterlife; atheism; faith; heaven; lifeafterdeath; nde; ndes; neardeathexperience
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Nearly everyone who dies and comes back tells almost the exact same story. Why is that, do you think?
1 posted on 10/27/2013 4:21:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Nearly everyone who dies and comes back tells almost the exact same story. Why is that, do you think?

I don’t know and I am not willing to die for 9 minutes to find out. Although I believe in God, I have a few things that need doing here before I leave.


2 posted on 10/27/2013 4:26:53 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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At the age of three, McVea started to be sexually abused by her drug and alcohol-addicted step father and that abuse continued by him and others until the age of 12.

Satan thinks he knows what he is doing. This poor little girl lived with the Devil for a decade, and he almost led her astray because of it. It must be frustrating to put that much work into destroying a soul and then lose because God puts 9 minutes into saving her.

3 posted on 10/27/2013 4:26:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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If she died why is she still here? Since when is death a temporary condition?


4 posted on 10/27/2013 4:29:55 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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Really great story. But when I arrested, I didn’t see God, my departed relatives or friends, or even “the light.” Or maybe I just don’t remember. I do recall a series of short dreams, including one where I was bicycling. In all of these dreams, my legs were moving. When I was brought back, I was told they had to use the paddles on me 7 times. That was probably what I was feeling when my legs moved.

I wish I could have seen God or my departed loved ones. Somehow I feel cheated. But I am grateful to Him for giving me a second chance.


5 posted on 10/27/2013 4:32:36 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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You never heard of cardiac arrest? When you arrest, you are clinically dead.


6 posted on 10/27/2013 4:34:05 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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Nearly everyone who dies and comes back tells almost the exact same story. Why is that, do you think?

I think that I wonder what Muslims who experience near death come back and say.

7 posted on 10/27/2013 4:34:13 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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Athiest: Oh you know...of all the the things you could hallucinate about when you die with your brain shutting down and all it has to be those darn pesky angels, Heaven, and God. Why not unicorns, rainbows, and leprechauns?...


8 posted on 10/27/2013 4:34:36 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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There was a guy named Lazarus. He had a couple of sisters, Mary and Martha. His first death was temporary. Frankly, about 33 Anno Dominie, death became a temporary condition for many of us.

And, I am so very thankful.

9 posted on 10/27/2013 4:35:27 AM PDT by Jemian (I do my best editing just after I hit the "post" button.)
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To: luvbach1

She may have been brain dead, with her soul/spirit separated from her body for that time, then returned some 9 minutes later and her body revived. Medically, they could have classified her as having been dead for a short period of time.


10 posted on 10/27/2013 4:37:43 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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“If she died why is she still here? Since when is death a temporary condition?”
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The term is “revived”
“revived). (transitive) To return to life; to recover life. “


11 posted on 10/27/2013 4:39:56 AM PDT by AlexW
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"when she was accidentally overdosed on pain medication"

Expect to see a lot more of that under Obamacare.
12 posted on 10/27/2013 4:41:51 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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I believe in God and an afterlife. But I tend to not make much of these stories. I think it is an overactive imagination at work, and uses common symbols for the dying experience (heaven, pearly gates, etc for some, darkness for others).

These stories tell us more about the people involved, and not much about the existence of an afterlife.


13 posted on 10/27/2013 4:42:13 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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I don't know but I am looking at who this woman is, what she's been through in her difficult life and I am questioning her credibility and reliability about this event.

We hear similar stories about near-death experiences because it is collectively assumed that that is what is supposed to transpire, hence people repeat what they heard in previous stories.

Compare this to alien and UFO sitings. It seems to be a commonly held belief that they have large heads, super Asian eyes and scrawny appendages. That is how we wish to see them so that is what turns into common knowledge.

Area 51 is a “black site”, that's all. You're not going to find Elvis, Amelia Earhart, Groucho Marx, JFK and Hitler there, sorry folks. Hoax-makers, make lots of money. Where is Erich Von Daineken when you need him?

I am not buying this woman's story because she has a history of mental problems or disorders. Now, take a qualified physician or rationalist, scientist. If hey tell the same story then...I'm in.

14 posted on 10/27/2013 4:42:13 AM PDT by Netz
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"Nearly everyone who dies and comes back tells almost the exact same story."

That is simply not the case. There are a number of variants in these stories, including some who tell of glimpses of hell and a horrific afterlife.

But by far, the most believable tale I have heard is this one, in which the reality of *both* heaven and hell is retold.

Most compelling is his perception of the true nature of eternity, as opposed to our temporal existence.

"Time is a gift, given to man by a merciful God, to keep him from having to comprehend everything happening all at once."
15 posted on 10/27/2013 4:42:53 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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You’re exactly right. She’s also peddling a book, making money off her experience.

The market for such books & videos is lucrative, much like books and videos about the ufo phenomenon. There’s a hungry audience that is desperate to believe in both of these things.


16 posted on 10/27/2013 4:46:13 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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Oh, that is a good one! LOL! Muslims have near-death experiences everyday, all over the place because they worship death, you would too if your life on this planet was a living hell. They die, go to heaven, meet with Muhammad and all he can say is, “look at you Abed, your a mess, no limbs, no torso, just a head, what did you do”?

Abed says, I was a martyr, I blew myself up killing infidels.

Muhammad says, Oh, ok, another one? Go to the right somehow and wash up, Allah is waiting for you...

17 posted on 10/27/2013 4:46:19 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Jemian; luvbach1

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: ~John 11:25


18 posted on 10/27/2013 4:48:25 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: Netz
Take a look at Proof of Heaven by Dr. Alexander Eben.
19 posted on 10/27/2013 4:49:35 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Ted Grant; Netz

Indeed. Something is patently false if you make money from it. Oh, wait...


20 posted on 10/27/2013 4:49:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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