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Joel Osteen and Pope Francis
patheos.com ^ | August 27, 2013 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 08/28/2013 11:39:15 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

Joel Osteen and Pope Francis

August 27, 2013 By 7 Comments

Joel Osteen the prosperity preacher from Houston has just moved up from his $2m mansion to a $10m mansion. Here’s the news.

This is one of the things that tickle me about American Protestantism. These are the folks who have traditionally beat the Catholics with a big stick about the Pope living in a palace surrounded by rich art works.

The other thing is the way Protestants will beat up on Catholics for having a highly exalted infallible leader who is treated like a celebrity. Duh. The problem with them is not that they don’t have a Pope, but that they have 30,000 popes. Every pastor a pope, and Pope Osteen is just one among many.

So Pope Francis lives in a modest suite in a functional hostel while Pope Joel lives in a palace in Houston. Even when the popes lived in the apostolic palace they only lived in a comparatively modest apartment in the palace, and all that art? It’s history and heritage. He doesn’t own it. It belongs to the world–witness the crowds who come and go talking of Michelangelo.

But who am I to judge? They say Joel Osteen makes all his loot from sale of his books and calendars and self help T-shirts. He’s welcome to it I guess, and who knows, he might live like a prince of the Church on a fraction of his takings. He might give 90% of his wealth to the poor. So live and let live and let God be the judge.

But when it comes to appearances, when it comes to the one who seems to live the life of apostolic simplicity– Pope Francis wins.

For that matter, he wins with the gospel he’s preaching too. The American prosperity gospel is a false gospel. It’s no surprise that Osteen’s church doesn’t have a cross in it. Neither does the gospel he’s preaching.

Just thought…are there any photoshoppers out there who can send me a pic of Osteen being carried around in the sedia gestatoria?


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Humor
KEYWORDS: megachurch; osteen; popefrancis; ybpdln
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1 posted on 08/28/2013 11:39:15 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Not all Protestants believe Joel is even part of the church ...


2 posted on 08/28/2013 11:40:33 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Osteen’s a fraud.


3 posted on 08/28/2013 11:41:55 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: 11th_VA

That’s good to know. Seriously.


4 posted on 08/28/2013 11:46:43 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Osteen is to Prostestants what Father Phleger is to Catholics.


5 posted on 08/28/2013 11:47:34 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Osteen does not speak for real Christians. He is fake just like many other so called tv ministers. It is a disgrace the way these people live.


6 posted on 08/28/2013 11:48:50 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

I’m not loco over this pope but Osteen

No thank you


7 posted on 08/28/2013 11:48:56 AM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: 11th_VA

He is a heretic and false preacher.


8 posted on 08/28/2013 11:49:48 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Your problem is you are lumping all protestants together.

Very few protestant leaders live in 10m mansions. Those that do usually only reside there a short time before their fall.

How long has the Pope lived in the Vatican?


9 posted on 08/28/2013 11:55:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Osteen is a slick snake oil salesman.

He’s been blessed with that ability.

By whom, I can’t say.


10 posted on 08/28/2013 11:55:44 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

“This is one of the things that tickle me about American Protestantism. These are the folks who have traditionally beat the Catholics with a big stick about the Pope living in a palace surrounded by rich art works.

The other thing is the way Protestants will beat up on Catholics for having a highly exalted infallible leader who is treated like a celebrity. Duh. The problem with them is not that they don’t have a Pope, but that they have 30,000 popes. Every pastor a pope, and Pope Osteen is just one among many.”

Ummm... no. Most Protestants decry Joel Osteen for those things too, and most Protestant leaders do not engage in this behavior that Osteen does. Not to mention that no Prostestant pastor can claim infallibility or some universal jurisdiction, so calling them “popes” is just ludicrous.

Now, if we cherry picked one pedophile priest that Catholics roundly denounced and held him up as an exemplar of Catholicism, I have a feeling this author would not be okay with that.


11 posted on 08/28/2013 11:58:32 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Neither the Pope with his acceptance of Gays, nor Osteen with his love of mammon are part of any church I would belong to.


12 posted on 08/28/2013 12:03:23 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Where is the like button?


13 posted on 08/28/2013 12:09:24 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: humblegunner

He follows the mantra “a sucker is born every minute”. He preaches kool-aid to people with empty souls looking to find a way to be happy that includes lots of money.


14 posted on 08/28/2013 12:11:26 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: driftdiver

That seems to be the thing, to count all churches and denominations that are not of the Catholic denomination, as a single church, and then scour the world for tales and stories as though it is a single church.


15 posted on 08/28/2013 12:12:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Obama-[obamacare] "used to be a Republican idea. There's a governor of Massachusetts who set it up.")
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To: Brian Kopp DPM; DocRock; del4hope; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; Ottofire; ...
The YBPDLNPL is generally published infrequently, but based on the exploits of the megachurch pastors posts can spike for a period of time. If you would like on or off of this list please FReepmail me.


16 posted on 08/28/2013 12:12:27 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Gamecock
Joel Osteen the prosperity preacher from Houston has just moved up from his $2m mansion to a $10m mansion. Here’s the news. This is one of the things that tickle me about American Protestantism. These are the folks who have traditionally beat the Catholics with a big stick about the Pope living in a palace surrounded by rich art works.

The other thing is the way Protestants will beat up on Catholics for having a highly exalted infallible leader who is treated like a celebrity. Duh. The problem with them is not that they don’t have a Pope, but that they have 30,000 popes. Every pastor a pope, and Pope Osteen is just one among many. So Pope Francis lives in a modest suite in a functional hostel while Pope Joel lives in a palace in Houston.

Class warfare, 30,000 denominations (Hey Gamecock! We're back down to 30,000 this week!), and every non-Catholic's a Protestant. It's a cornucopia of Catholic carping!

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17 posted on 08/28/2013 12:16:06 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: driftdiver

It takes a large number of Protestants to put an Osteen in a $10 million house.


18 posted on 08/28/2013 12:19:49 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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It takes a large number of Protestants to put an Osteen in a $10 million house.

What makes you believe that it takes any Protestants?

19 posted on 08/28/2013 12:22:42 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: Boogieman

No pedophilic priest so far has had enough supporters to put him in a $10million house. Protestantism has a lengthy history of such Prosperity Prophets. In the 60s there was Reverend Ike


20 posted on 08/28/2013 12:24:20 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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