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Dancing Liberal 'Bishops' at Rio World Youth Day
Rorate Caeli ^ | July 27, 2013 | New Catholic

Posted on 08/05/2013 11:24:58 AM PDT by BonRad

Bishops dance to a new tune

World Youth Day 2013, Bishops practicing for event Rio de Janeiro

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/07/bishops-dance-to-new-tune.html 86 comments: Frank Carleton said... At last! POST VATICAN II : THE EPISCOPAL MUSICAL or bishops behaving fatuously. Unsurprising that evangelical Protestantism is advancing in South America. Protestants do such antics better. These gyrating bishops are not leaders but gormless followers aping youthful behaviour and being simply silly. 27 July, 2013 22:50


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To: Biggirl

“And that is what was going on, ONLY for the glory of God.”

I find nothing unBiblical about dancing to God’s glory.
I find nothing unBiblical about dancing for fun.

I’ve heard it said that those against dancing consider it a vertical expression of a horizontal desire. Sometimes. Mostly fun.

Sometimes I wish people would just lighten up. God made life to enjoy.


21 posted on 08/05/2013 5:58:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws - Tacituss)
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To: Biggirl

Corrected by whom? You? LOL.


22 posted on 08/05/2013 6:13:32 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Biggirl

Do you consider Pope Francis to be God? If so, I have a golden calf to sell you.


23 posted on 08/05/2013 6:15:13 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
Now I don't deny that these gentlemen look a little silly, but it doesn't seem to be sinful. Is there any reason this dancing couldn't be for the Pope, God, Brazil and all God's children?

May husband and I sing in a shapenote group which some join in for folkloric, and some for devotional purposes. Probably, for most of us it's unanalyzed, some of both. We say we sing "For God, and for each other."

It may be tuneful. It may be woeful. But is it wrong?

24 posted on 08/05/2013 6:26:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification, I hope.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Probably not sinful at least outside of the Mass but possibly undignified at the level of bishop and at any kind of juxtaposition to a Mass, which it was. (Full Disclosure: I have not viewed the actual video and don’t care to).

This sort of thing more suited for kids and teachers at “Mandatory Fun Night” — they really use that term here — when they wrap up the school year’s religious education with a light-hearted party.

When bishops prance like that it makes me scared the pope is going to join in a rainbow parade or something.


25 posted on 08/05/2013 6:41:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
God made life to enjoy.

Do you see it that way? As opposed to made humans to serve God? Many Blessed Saints' lives full of suffering and misery, for a reason. Can't say the same for many who go around sporting "Life is Good" bumper stickers.

26 posted on 08/05/2013 6:45:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; ebb tide; Buckeye McFrog; Dr. Thorne

I can see you’ve been through this.

What % of those lines u cite are with OT priests/rabbis?

These men are promoting absurd, vainglorious ‘worship’(albeit they aren’t in a ‘sanctuary’, or are they-was a Novus Ordo rite said here afterward?) whereas Our Lord said His House was one of prayer.

I gotta go find that OT line someday (hey I read the whole OT once!) where it was given the noise of women walking loudly in the Temple had correspondence to strife in Judea.

Then there’s always this which it seems u hang onto but a couple OT lines:

Holy Laughter Chaos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn6FF5nhTSs

I haven’t posted in FR in religion forum for ages and I’m thinking I remember why.


27 posted on 08/05/2013 6:47:45 PM PDT by BonRad (The world is full of educated derelicts-Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Is there any reason this dancing couldn't be for the Pope, God, Brazil and all God's children?

Knowing what we know about those whose skulls pave the road to hell (St. John Chrysostom), how likely is that?

28 posted on 08/05/2013 6:56:20 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It may be tuneful. It may be woeful. But is it wrong?

I don't think it's right, that's for sure.

Do you think "woeful" is OK for any papal event that had months of preparation?

29 posted on 08/05/2013 6:56:58 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: BonRad; Mrs. Don-o; steve86

Sorry coming back apparently late here.

pls see I’ve done a post (#27) and hope not to get this into a laughter thread.

Mrs Don-o, steve86 has amply answered but the assembled public dancing is below a bishop’s office. In this context they are demonstrating their ‘office’. That they are corresponding to youth who doubtlessly can’t easily distinguish sensuality from piety can easily be posited.
Their idea of gravity in worship is wrong should they think they have to right ANYTHING by this behavior. They are at least poor examples.

I very much agree w/ steve86 that should this be anything near (in physical place /time) a professed sacred rite it is plainly sinful, a violation of the solemnity demanded with Our Lord saying His House was one of PRAYER.


30 posted on 08/05/2013 7:05:06 PM PDT by BonRad (The world is full of educated derelicts-Calvin Coolidge)
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To: steve86

There ya go! Presumption of guilt!


31 posted on 08/05/2013 7:17:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification, I hope. (Scratches head.))
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To: BonRad
I've gotta admit I hate having allowed myself get pulled into this thread (which is feeling like a web, and sticky) because I am actually an appreciator of liturgies with all the due Benedictine solemnity, I sing in the Latin choir and thus assist, with deep appreciation, at every Latin Mass at our parish. And I have in the past walked out of Liturgies that were disturbingly unserious.

But my understanding is, this was not a Liturgy. It was some kind of non-liturgical song with gestures, like the kids do at VBS.

Is this a sin?

Really?

Oh, Don Bosco!

32 posted on 08/05/2013 7:26:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification, I hope. (Scratches head.))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It was some kind of non-liturgical song with gestures...

Like the Chicken Dance or the Macarena?

Not much comfort there.

33 posted on 08/05/2013 7:45:15 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If there was a ‘liturgical rite’ following at the same spot it was very sinful, as the Novus Ordo, given the destruction of the sanctuary’s edges (rails) can be taken to be any masonic egalitarian space around its ‘altar’.

I’ve already cited my take on this even if there is no associated ‘liturgical rite’. Why do they have to stoop to these teens... some false humility in ‘first shall be last’ or ‘washing the feet’ motive? Being ‘personal’ rather than part of that dreaded institutional block?

Their minds are G-O-N-E and one can see it in their faces. I wonder how many took their elevation rite seriously...one needs proper intent...can be posited many aren’t bishops for this reason alone.

And then there’s this encyclical by Paul IV

Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio
http://www.dailycatholic.org/cumexapo.htm

Don Bosco would have screamed at anything like this surrounding his Oratories which he so labored to establish as repositories of The Most Blessed Sacrament.


34 posted on 08/05/2013 7:46:27 PM PDT by BonRad (The world is full of educated derelicts-Calvin Coolidge)
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To: ebb tide

Yes, now accept it.


35 posted on 08/06/2013 4:08:15 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ebb tide

NO! What are you talking about?

Are you trying to act holier-then-thou. That is NOT GOOD.


36 posted on 08/06/2013 4:13:26 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Agreed, same here.

Dance has been seen in scripture and as you have presented as a form of prayer.


37 posted on 08/06/2013 4:16:17 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: BonRad

Yet posting number 6 showed the LORD blessing all those examples of prayerful, holy dancing, that is, the scripture passages. Likely in the Lord’s temple.

Plus also Brazil is a very musical culture.


38 posted on 08/06/2013 4:22:37 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: steve86

A gentle correcting is in order.

A good and holy life is one that is “balanced”. It is one full of both joys and sorrows, in serving God.

Joy can be holy too.


39 posted on 08/06/2013 4:30:55 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: steve86

Please see post number 38. Thank-you.


40 posted on 08/06/2013 4:35:42 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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