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He even hates Capitalism: "the prevalence of a selfish and individualistic mindset which also finds expression in an unregulated capitalism"

With regret, NCR does not allow FR to reproduce the full article. The excerpt is only about 40% of the original, so if this interests you or concerns you, I strongly encourage you to read the full article.

1 posted on 08/05/2013 7:23:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Tax-chick; NYer; Salvation; livius
"No matter what Pope Francis says, many find ways of twisting it to suit their viewpoint" ping.

A shame to see this by Archbold in the authentically Catholic Register.

2 posted on 08/05/2013 7:28:47 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Alex Murphy

Good article. LOL


4 posted on 08/05/2013 7:32:21 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Alex Murphy

“It is true that the Muslim world is not totally mistaken when it reproaches the West of Christian tradition of moral decadence and the manipulation of human life.”

I can’t disagree with this one.


6 posted on 08/05/2013 7:47:32 AM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: Alex Murphy

You forgot his disclaimer.

**In fairness, I must note that there might be one small problem with my analysis. So small I hesitate to even bring it up. Every quote above is from Pope Benedict. Every one.**


8 posted on 08/05/2013 7:53:41 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy
"The authority of the pope is not unlimited;"

The authority of the pope is nonexistent.

9 posted on 08/05/2013 7:54:57 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Just his being from Argentina told me that he was liberal.


11 posted on 08/05/2013 8:02:20 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Alex Murphy

Capitalism as envisioned by our Founders required self-regulation rooted in morality, generally based in religion.
It was never about flat-out absolute selfishness and greed.


12 posted on 08/05/2013 8:13:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Alex Murphy
Encourages Homosexuality. "It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the church's pastors wherever it occurs."

How is that statement encouraging homosexuality? It's encouraging neighborly love ... exactly what Jesus taught. That does not mean condoning or encouraging sinful behavior, however. No one should be victims of violent malice in speech or action. Let's just think about the parable of the Good Samaritan for example.

13 posted on 08/05/2013 8:14:15 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Alex Murphy
Am I the only one here that thinks maybe the Pope should be liberal?
19 posted on 08/05/2013 8:27:47 AM PDT by swamp40
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To: Alex Murphy
Is Francis the last Pope: Peter the Roman ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

21 posted on 08/05/2013 8:28:42 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks, Alex! Wonderful article, right down to the last line: kicky!


23 posted on 08/05/2013 8:32:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification, I hope.)
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To: Alex Murphy
"It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action."

It is "encouraging homosexuality" to refrain from beating up homosexuals or saying that they should be beaten up? I don't think so. Or are we to imagine Jesus engaging in violent attacks on homosexuals?
25 posted on 08/05/2013 8:43:43 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Alex Murphy

Francis may be worse than all those who followed Pius XII and Vatican II. And that’s quite a stretch.


26 posted on 08/05/2013 8:44:11 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: All

There is a lot of projection going on concerning Pope Francis. That’s what makes this article with its surprise ending possible.


27 posted on 08/05/2013 8:46:41 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Why are you encouraging people to sin, Alex?


33 posted on 08/05/2013 9:05:53 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Alex Murphy

“The authority of the pope is not unlimited;”


I would say that is a true statement.

Every thing else if an actual statement of his, i agree, i would consider him a liberal and a new world enthusiast.

People who have never had to get out and pick s..t with the chickens do not understand that Capitalism is what feeds the hungry people all over the world.

When Jesus was talking about giving drink or food to people he was talking about giving of ones self, personally, do unto others as you would have them do unto you,
but
Matt 20 shows very plainly that Jesus was not against Capitalism.


15
Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

If the owner of the vine yard had of paid the late comers what they were worth they would have been angry, but since out of the kindness of his heart he paid them more than what they earned the others were angry.

It is nothing but envy of what some one else has, regardless of how hard they worked or did not work to get it.

Who will help me gather in the crop? not i said them all.
Who will help me eat it? i will said them all.


37 posted on 08/05/2013 9:14:16 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Alex Murphy
From a DW article:

"Rebellion and revolution - that's nothing new for Latin America: In the 1960s and 70s, Latin American liberation theologians such as Gustavo Gutierrez and Oscar Romero inspired clergymen and believers all over the world. One of them was Ludwig Gerhard Müller, who now heads the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith."

"Brazilian theologian Leonardo Boff firmly believes Latin America will trigger future reforms that are going to change the Catholic Church. "Our church doesn't reflect the European mother church anymore; it has its own origins, its own traditions, heroes, martyrs, prophets and personas such as the famous former bishop of Recife, Dom Helder Camara, or our very own saint, Oscar Romero," Boff said. "These churches will breathe new life into Christianity.""

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3047023/posts

Gerhard Ludwig Müller - Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

"On 2 July 2012 Bishop Müller was appointed prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith by Pope Benedict XVI. At the same time he was appointed Archbishop ad personam. As a result of his new role his is also ex officio president of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, the International Theological Commission, and the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei."

"As a personal friend of Pope Benedict XVI, he has been charged with preparing the publication of the “Opera Omnia”: a series of books that will collect, in a single edition, all Benedict's writings.[5] Müller himself has was written more than 400 works on dogmatic theology, ecumenism, revelation, hermeneutics, the priesthood and the diaconate."

"Müller was also a pupil of Gustavo Gutiérrez, the “father” of Latin-American liberation theology, with whom he has a long and close friendship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Ludwig_M%C3%BCller

Bishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/muller/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20130124_biografia-muller_en.html

Church Revolution in Pictures - Gutiérrez and Muller
http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A479-Muller-3.htm

Gustavo Gutiérrez
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavo_Guti%C3%A9rrez

"I remember that in high school there was a Communist professor. We had a wonderful relationship with him, he questioned us about everything and it was good for us, but he never lied to us. - Pope Francis p131 Heaven and Earth

"I read Our Word and Proposals, a publication by the Communist Party, and I loved every article ever written by Leonidas Barletta, one of their best-known members" - Pope Francis page 39 Conversations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNjUfI07s90

Leónidas Barletta
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?ref=SERP&br=ro&mkt=en-US&dl=en&lp=ES_EN&a=http%3a%2f%2fes.wikipedia.org%2fwiki%2fLe%25C3%25B3nidas_Barletta

A different perspective on Francis' "wild capitalism" and concern for the poor.

50 posted on 08/05/2013 9:44:36 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: Alex Murphy; Servant of the Cross

Great article, and Archbold was actually right. People do twist the Pope’s words. All the quotes are from Pope Benedict - and not a single one is “liberal.”

These are simply the teachings of the Catholic Church, which holds out salvation to everyone and hates the sin but loves the sinner.

As for capitalism, I don’t think there’s a single person here who would support crony capitalism (state capitalism) or a situation where factory owners could do things like lock the fire exits and let their employees die because it might have cost them a few extra bucks to have the fire exits open. Pope Francis has frequently made the point that economic systems must be regulated from within, that is, by virtuous people.


60 posted on 08/05/2013 11:18:05 AM PDT by livius
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks for posting! Glad to see you lurking over at the Register. I saw this one this morning and got a kick out of it. The amazing thing to me is how many dim bulbs read Archbold’s column. Check out some of the comments.


63 posted on 08/05/2013 4:20:21 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Alex Murphy
"It is true that the Muslim world is not totally mistaken when it reproaches the West of Christian tradition of moral decadence and the manipulation of human life."

"It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the church's pastors wherever it occurs.
"

Agree completely. Whichever pope and whoever in general said that is truly a Christian man from whom the world should learn.

Hilarious find by the Archibolds.

Good job as always, Murphy.

64 posted on 08/05/2013 4:23:19 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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