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If you want a Scriptural analysis of the washing of feet mandatum, here it is
Holy Souls Hermitage ^ | 3/30/2013 | Fr George David Byers

Posted on 03/31/2013 5:46:39 AM PDT by markomalley

I’ve been on retreat since Tuesday of Holy Week, but I thought I would take a look how Pope Francis is faring. It seems people are in a huff over his washing the feet of young prisoners at Casal del Marmo during the Mass of the Lord’s Supper on Holy Thursday evening. In my lightning quick survey, I may have missed it, but it really looks like there’s not even one comment about what’s going on in Scripture other than that the Apostles were the receivers of the mandatum, the mandate, to wash feet.

I fully realize that the Liturgy is its own source, as it were, so to speak, but just as Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition and the Sacred Magisterium form a kind of tripod which will not correctly manifest for us weak men what it is that the Lord provides for us if any leg of that tripod is kicked away, just so will the Liturgy, as a living expression of the entirety of that tripod, as a kind of burning lamp on top of that tripod, be unable to enliven and enlighten without the threefold support of that tripod.

We’ve seen emotional commentary, legal commentary, liturgical commentary and so on. Perhaps a Scriptural comment would help us to understand a bit more. The Most Holy Bible is often dismissed by those in the ditch on the right or the left as irrelevant, but we should be loath to say that what the Lord of History has provided and permitted and what the Holy Spirit has inspired is useless for our lives and the very Liturgy which is to have us worship the Most High God.

Recall the following:

Sure. But there is more. Our Lord refers to this “more” Himself, so we ought best pay attention to this.

Now then, is Pope Francis wrong in choosing to emphasize the service aspect of this foot-washing? No, he can choose to do that, and with great benefit for the Church.

In seeming not to emphasize the other particular aspect of the foot-washing, which has to do with the Satan’s kingdom being washed away, it is not as if Pope Francis is saying that he does think that Satan does not exist. He has mentioned Satan more often in a brief space of time perhaps more than any other Pontiff on record, and to great effect.

In washing the feet of the youth, it is not as if Pope Francis is participating in some sort of antidisestablishmentarianisticalness on behalf of Satan. No, no. He’s just showing us what his idea of the new evangelization is all about: Have people of whatever sex, religion, culture, social status or condition draw close to God so that Satan will run away.

Just because Jesus washed the feet of the Apostles does not mean that only those who are symbolic of the Apostles, for instance, viri, men, are alone to have their feet washed in this way.

When the Apostles then wash the feet of others in this way, it does not mean that the others have to be ordainable, that is, men. This is not an ordination rite.

So, think about it. What does this say about the Holy Father’s idea about interreligious dialogue? Heh heh heh.

He has already mentioned reason for dialogue with Muslims in his fantastic Regensburg-like address to the diplomats. Heh heh heh.

The Holy Father has not at all ignored the other aspect of being washed from the evil influence of Satan. Not at all. Heh heh heh.

None of this is antithetical to the Mass of the Lord’s Supper. It has everything to do with the ones for whom Christ allowed Himself to be crushed. Beautiful.

I am very thankful to Almighty God for Pope Francis!


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1 posted on 03/31/2013 5:46:39 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

He is a Jesuit and cannot be trusted.


2 posted on 03/31/2013 5:53:01 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: markomalley

Very good analysis! I think probably the whole rite (which is optiomal anyway, used to be done only by bishops and then was extended to parishes by VII) will be changed to give it an understanding closer to this. It has nothing to do with ordaining people, but the types who are flipping out would find something else to foam at the mouth about, so maybe it’s not worth the effort to explain it to them. Or not more than a couple of times, at least.


3 posted on 03/31/2013 5:56:00 AM PDT by livius
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To: OldGoatCPO
He is a Jesuit and cannot be trusted.

Are you a sedevacantist?

If not, Can. 331 The bishop of the Roman Church, in whom continues the office given by the Lord uniquely to Peter, the first of the Apostles, and to be transmitted to his successors, is the head of the college of bishops, the Vicar of Christ, and the pastor of the universal Church on earth. By virtue of his office he possesses supreme, full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church, which he is always able to exercise freely.

As far as "not to be trusted..." goes.

4 posted on 03/31/2013 5:58:16 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

When the Apostles then wash the feet of others in this way, it does not mean that the others have to be ordainable, that is, men. This is not an ordination rite.

It is a traditional and historical rite though. And the Apostles WERE all men, don’t you agree? So Pope Francis is indeed breaking with tradition. Then, as celibacy of priests is a tradition and a historical rite, break with that also. No more celibate priests. I guess you get to choose which traditions you want to break with and which you don’t, eh? The road to relativism is a slippery slope.


5 posted on 03/31/2013 5:59:13 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: livius

I don’t understand why people get uptight about an innovation, either.

Obviously, with one of the two females being a Muslim girl, there is no way that this could be interpreted as being open to female ordination. I would expect the people on the left to be that stupid, but the people on the right? Puhhleeesse!


6 posted on 03/31/2013 6:00:14 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Quite right!

Our new Pope has shown his humility as an example to all of us. Short of administering a bedpan and emptying it, what else could he do in public to show us how to be humble in doing the work of God?


7 posted on 03/31/2013 6:09:36 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: flaglady47
It is a traditional and historical rite though. And the Apostles WERE all men, don’t you agree? So Pope Francis is indeed breaking with tradition. Then, as celibacy of priests is a tradition and a historical rite, break with that also. No more celibate priests. I guess you get to choose which traditions you want to break with and which you don’t, eh? The road to relativism is a slippery slope.

Interesting that traditions and rites have become more important than carrying the Word and practicing the Great Commandments. What women were at the Last Supper? Should women be allowed to take Communion? Why is celibacy so important? The staying single/celibate part was a single man's opinion rather than a message borne by the Holy Spirit and he made it clear that it was not God's Word, but his own opinion. Teachers were to be good and successful family men (should that even be in the Bible if it causes a problem with tradition?) so they could help others be the same, but someone decided that it would be more "Christ-Like" (hubris anyone?) to stay single/celibate. Do you think that particular tradition might have anything to do with the homosexual/pedophile scandals the Church has gone through? Jesus told us what He thought about traditions when he told us the Sabbath was for us and there was no incongruity in the man doing the "work" of carrying his pallet after being made whole. He also told us what He had done to the commandments when he told us about the Great Commandments - they fulfilled the intent of the Old Covenant Law. The new Pope is practicing what he preaches, humble love - what a sin...

8 posted on 03/31/2013 6:12:45 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: flaglady47
It is a traditional and historical rite though.

The insertion of foot-washing during the Maundy Thursday Mass was an innovation by Pope Pius XII in 1955.

And the Apostles WERE all men, don’t you agree?

Of course, but did Jesus not command the apostles to go out and wash the feet of others (implying the lowest of the low?)

So Pope Francis is indeed breaking with tradition.

What tradition? The washing of lay peoples' feet rather than clerics?

You want to talk about tradition, what about the old tradition of sovereigns washing the feet of the poor?

Then, as celibacy of priests is a tradition and a historical rite, break with that also.

Non-sequitur. First, what does that have to do with this right? Second, what about Eastern Catholic priests? Third, what about former protestant clergy who have been ordained? (Former Anglicans primarily)? The former is hardly an innovation. The latter was not implemented by +Francis.

I guess you get to choose which traditions you want to break with and which you don’t, eh?

Can. 331 The bishop of the Roman Church, in whom continues the office given by the Lord uniquely to Peter, the first of the Apostles, and to be transmitted to his successors, is the head of the college of bishops, the Vicar of Christ, and the pastor of the universal Church on earth. By virtue of his office he possesses supreme, full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church, which he is always able to exercise freely.

You tell me.

9 posted on 03/31/2013 6:23:45 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

An opinion concerning this action, not particularly suited to the needs of the low-information Christian, see:http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/03/have-we-entered-an-age-of-a-new-gnosticism/


10 posted on 03/31/2013 6:33:13 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: livius; markomalley
" but the types who are flipping out would find something else to foam at the mouth about, so maybe it’s not worth the effort to explain it to them. Or not more than a couple of times, at least."

It is my understanding that we MUST, every single one of us who believe in the Lord, spread His word. No matter HOW MANY times it takes.

I'm not catholic, but I really like this Pope. My boss and I were just discussing the new Pope. He likes him as well (the boss is Jewish).

There is something, maybe humbling is the word I'm looking for, about him. That's the only word I can think of.

11 posted on 03/31/2013 6:53:50 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: OldGoatCPO; markomalley
"He is a Jesuit and cannot be trusted."

Just looked at your posting history. YOU cannot be trusted.

12 posted on 03/31/2013 6:59:44 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: kitkat

Amen. You stated it perfectly!


13 posted on 03/31/2013 7:03:23 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: markomalley
If you want a Scriptural analysis of the washing of feet mandatum ...

Or if you just want to love God and your neighbor and rejoice in Christ's resurrection, that's a choice, too.

14 posted on 03/31/2013 7:29:00 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Quien vive? JESUS! Y a su nombre? GLORIA! Y a su pueblo? VICTORIA!)
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To: markomalley

**This is not an ordination rite.**

A good line to remember.


15 posted on 03/31/2013 8:49:43 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: trebb

**Interesting that traditions and rites have become more important than carrying the Word and practicing the Great Commandments.**

Bingo!


16 posted on 03/31/2013 8:51:18 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

A great analysis of the Scripture! Thanks and Happy Easter to you.


17 posted on 03/31/2013 8:53:53 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley
If you want a Scriptural analysis of the washing of feet mandatum, here it is
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Young Inmates Eager for Holy Thursday Mass With Francis
The Fourth Cup
The Last Supper and the Forgiveness of Sins
Benedict XVI’s sermon for Holy Thursday Mass of the Last Supper (Catholic/Orthodox Caucus)
The Mandatum of Love (meaning of Maundy Thursday/Holy Thursday) [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Significance of Holy Thursday
Holy Thursday Evening Mass of the Lord's Supper
A Christian Passover Seder for Holy Thursday (or tonight)

The significance of Holy Thursday (institution of the Eucharist and priesthood)
Holy Thursday: The God who Washes Feet
Holy Thursday and the washing of the feet [Mandatum]
The Hunt for the Fourth Cup
Great and Holy Thursday [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Maundy Thursday, Holy Thursday, Shire Thursday
Holy Thursday
Maundy Thursday
HOMILIES PREACHED BY FATHER ALTIER ON HOLY THURSDAY IN 2004 AND 2005.
Paths to Rome: Washing of Feet on Holy Thursday

Washing of the Feet on Holy Thursday And More on Days of Abstinence
Reflections for Maundy Thursday: The Carrying of the Cross
Past Not Over (Why Passover is the most widely observed holiday.)
The Chrism Mass
Celebration of a Family Seder Meal
Washing the Feet of Men Only on Holy Thursday
ALTAR OF REPOSE - Catholic Liturgy for Maundy Thursday
Catholic Caucus: Maundy (Holy) Thursday
The Fourth Cup: The Sacrament of the Eucharist [Holy Thursday] [Passover]
Holy Thursday - When the moon is full

18 posted on 03/31/2013 8:56:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

Ping dirt washing


19 posted on 03/31/2013 1:00:55 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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“John 13,10 — We read that Jesus says that the one who has been cleansed (a perfect passive participle calling baptism to mind) has no need to be cleansed except for the feet (where that cursed dust is), for Jesus says, he is already entirely clean.

Then explain this, Fr. Byers:

“And Mary was she that anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair: whose brother Lazarus was sick.”
John 11:2

“Mary therefore took a pound of ointment of right spikenard, of great price, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.”
John 12:3


20 posted on 03/31/2013 4:48:16 PM PDT by ebb tide
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