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To: DouglasKC
Well, here goes...

Many eschatologists believe that the reference to the seven hills means Rome - specifically the Roman Catholic Church seated at The Vatican. There is conjecture that the next pope will lead Catholics away from true faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and toward a false religion, a religion that will support the Anti-Christ when he is revealed.

This shouldn't come as a surprise as many people believe that praying to Mary and the saints practiced by the Catholic Church is heresy since prayer is a form of worship, and Scripture makes it clear that we are to worship God alone.

Also, when the Anti-Christ appears, he will be seen as a savior for a world in utter turmoil. He will be seen as a very positive figure, not as the Beast described in Revelation. In time, his true Satanic nature will be revealed, but there will be those who remain faithful to him and continue to hate God.

7 posted on 12/03/2012 3:44:56 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Yes, and the European Union will be involved with Roman Catholic Church -a politico-religious union. Look for a charismatic leader in Germany.


8 posted on 12/03/2012 4:00:18 AM PST by gattaca ("Great things can be accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dr. Thorne

there is also another city, built literally on top of seven hills, and was the capital of the roman empire...

that city is constantinople...


12 posted on 12/03/2012 4:16:55 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: Dr. Thorne

According to Strong’s the word used in Revelationis “oros,” which can only mean “mountains”. Rome doesn’t sit on any mountains; it is surrounded by seven hills (”bounos” in Greek). On the other hand, Mecca, is surrounded by seven mountains (Jabal Quba, Jabal al Qinaa, Jabal Li Aali, Jabal Jifan, Jabal Jijad, Jabal Qubais, and Jabal Hindi).


17 posted on 12/03/2012 4:44:51 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: Dr. Thorne

Oh Good grief....Not this ignorance again....

(Face palm)


20 posted on 12/03/2012 4:57:25 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Dr. Thorne

How do you resolve the time line, given that the anti-Christ has already been revealed and was re-elected president?


26 posted on 12/03/2012 5:15:52 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Many eschatologists believe

WHICH ones? Links?

There is conjecture

WHAT conjecture? Links?

many people believe

WHICH people? Be specific.

These are nothing but your personal animus against Catholics couched as "experts agree with me". Kind of like "when did you stop beating your wife?" questions by Leftist media types.

28 posted on 12/03/2012 5:30:49 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Dr. Thorne

ALL Protestan theorists use Reveleations to continue their attack on the Catholic Church.

Many then go on to remove themselves from any coming tribulations, by inventing “the Rapture”, which necessarily denies the 2nd coming of Christ, by injecting a third.

There have been many “Anti-Christs” through history.

The Bible never refers to “the” singular, Anti-Christ.


30 posted on 12/03/2012 5:32:59 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Dr. Thorne

“Many eschatologists believe that the reference to the seven hills means Rome - specifically the Roman Catholic Church seated at The Vatican.”
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The big hole in this anti-Catholic interpretation is that the hill the Vatican is built on is NOT one of the 7 hills of Rome— Vatican Hill is on the opposite side of the Tiber. It appears that your self-styled “eschatologists” need to do their geography homework—or find another object for their bigotry than the Catholic Church.
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http://www.catholic.com/tracts/hunting-the-whore-of-babylon


33 posted on 12/03/2012 5:48:50 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Yikes... time to put popcorn in microwave.


47 posted on 12/03/2012 6:35:01 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Dr. Thorne

Harumph! Harumph!

How dare you slander Catholicism in this manner? This is Free Republic, you know. I demand your reply be deleted at once.


50 posted on 12/03/2012 6:44:20 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Dr. Thorne

“Prayer” is an analogical term.

People “pray for relief” in a lawsuit. They aren’t worshiping the court or the judge.

People “pray” to God for various reasons: Adoration, contrition, thanksgiving, and supplication.

People “pray” to Mary and other saints in order to give her DUE HONOR—i.e., NOT adoration. They also “pray” to Mary in order to ask for her intercession with Jesus. Exactly as they would ask a next-door neighbor to pray.

In other words, for the ten-trillionth time, CATHOLICS DO NOT WORSHIP MARY OR THE SAINTS.

Or do you think that Catholics SECRETLY worship Mary, and just try to cover this fact up by denying it in EVERY CATHOLIC CATECHISM AND CATHOLIC THEOLOGY TEXTBOOK EVER PUBLISHED?


93 posted on 12/03/2012 8:57:11 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Dr. Thorne

This was written about the old Rome.

Are you familiar with the layout of Rome?

The Vatican is not one of the seven hills — they are on the other side of the Tiber. I seem to remember this from one of my Scrpture studies on the book of Revelation.


96 posted on 12/03/2012 8:59:48 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Dr. Thorne

I’ve heard it’s the Catholic Church as well and there’s a guy named Doug Batchelor that has a show and a site that has a sermon or two on it. His show is amazing facts.


127 posted on 12/03/2012 2:22:29 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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