Posted on 11/26/2012 1:17:49 PM PST by victim soul
I wrote 223. I meant 223.
Why do you continue to propagate the lie about 30,000+ Protestant denominations? You promote lies, in efforts to promote your particular denomination (or “rite” (semantics)). Pathetic.
My reading of James IS correct. Sorry —
Did you see that the source for that post was a Protestant one? Please do not call me a liar.
Did you check the Catholic rites link? Shall I post that for you too?
“Regarding the debate about faith and works: It’s like asking which blade in a pair of scissors is most important.”
~C.S. Lewis
This is a link to the same source you referenced: http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a106.htm#Catholics
Get your facts straight.
Words such as "false" "wrong" "error" do not attribute motive.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
That was a pretty divine typo!
No room for debate. If you endorse murder of innocents you are not a follower of Christ. Period.
Indeed, Salvation is not a one and done thing, it is a life long endeavor.
"Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain." - 1 Corinthians 15:1-3
I did not call any Freeper a “liar.”
This Freeper is promoting a known lie. That is simply what I was saying.
Please undelete the comment I wrote above, explaining this in detail.
You are absolutely right. Whether thru abortion or ObamaCare's death panels...the murder of innocents is NEVER aceeptable...
And therein lies one of the ironies. One can be saved and continue sinful thoughts and activities. Paul lamented that he did the things which he would not do and did not do the things that he would do. He agonized over his inability to be true to the teachings of the Lord; hence the fact that "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for they shall inherit the kingdom of heaven" - those who acknowledge their sinful natures and struggle against them are blessed.
I've heard folks say that if they continue to do some of the things they did before they were saved, then they ought to reexamine whether or no they are truly saved. I say that those who think they have eschewed all sinful practices since being saved need to reexamine their true condition. God Bless
“Any sin that is ongoing and the sinner unrepentant is not covered.”
“Then there is no hope for you friend. If Christ’s blood and death didn’t cover your sins - all of them - even the ones you don’t currently recognize as sin, then you are headed to hell.
Of course, His death and shed blood did cover all sins, past, present and future.”
OSAS? Do you mean that you can sin and not repent and still go to Heaven because you said the ‘sinners’ prayer’?
Generally speaking yes.
I will provide a caveat or two.
1) A new convert may be pro abortion and not yet have heard enough about pro-life in their new faith and cling to their sin for a season. But I certainly expect them to repent and become pro-life at some point.
2) In many apostate churches there is a remnant of true believers, but they are not getting fed the truth so in a sense they are dead in the water. These dear souls may be hearing that abortion is OK. Until they are led to a church that preaches the truth they may be stuck in that sin for some time.
In both cases, we need to pray for these people that the Holy Spirit will lead them to the truth.
Generally speaking yes.
I will provide a caveat or two.
1) A new convert may be pro abortion and not yet have heard enough about pro-life in their new faith and cling to their sin for a season. But I certainly expect them to repent and become pro-life at some point.
2) In many apostate churches there is a remnant of true believers, but they are not getting fed the truth so in a sense they are dead in the water. These dear souls may be hearing that abortion is OK. Until they are led to a church that preaches the truth they may be stuck in that sin for some time.
In both cases, we need to pray for these people that the Holy Spirit will lead them to the truth.
Proves nothing other than that they were for it before they were against it. And you CAN’T disprove that.
But even if you had not used the word "lie" your original claim specifically attributed motive with this phrase: "... in efforts to promote ..."
“Do you mean that you can sin and not repent and still go to Heaven because you said the ‘sinners’ prayer’?
of course not.
Your understanding of James misses his argument before and after the passage you quote.
Perhaps you should outline the argument in James and see how your passage supports that argument.
In the meantime, no doctrine is based on a single passage. Doctrines are based on the totality of the Bible’s teaching about a topic. I suggest you add Galatians and Romans to your study. You will learn that justification is always based on faith and not works.
Take that understanding with you back to your outline of the book of James.
Blessings to you.
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