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A most timely article indeed.
1 posted on 10/31/2012 10:31:23 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: hlmencken3; rmlew; Nachum; dervish; Yehuda; Ancesthntr; TorahTrueJew; Yomin Postelnik; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 10/31/2012 10:33:10 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Some people are simply the sworn enemies of fun.


3 posted on 10/31/2012 10:37:07 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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It's Halloween, let's all idol-worship tonight

Next Tuesday is Election Day, let all Romney voters -- people voting for a temple Mormon who portends to be a competing "god" to THE God, sanction idol worship by voting for a guy who thinks he's a "god-in-embryo!"

7 posted on 10/31/2012 10:44:12 AM PDT by Colofornian ( >)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"...Though Halloween in America has been secularized and commercialized to the point where it is now a frivolous time of costumes, candy, and pranks..."

But obviously, there ARE people who will completely go off the deep end on this, instead of understanding the difference between THIS description above and people who celebrate it as a religious holiday, even though the VAST majority of people, especially in the USA don't even know it is religious, and there is nothing underlying the activities that would even make someone think it is religious.

In this case, it seems puzzling because the author doesn't seem to be able to (or want to) differentiate between the two, even though he spells out the difference.

Oh, well.

8 posted on 10/31/2012 10:45:09 AM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Xtian”? The writer must be a Christophobe.


16 posted on 10/31/2012 10:51:25 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

But without Jesus as their Lord and Savior, they will meet him as Sovereign and it wont matter what tribe they’re from or what laws they tried not to break.

I pray they come to the knowledge of that saving grace of Jesus Christ and choose Him.
Amen.


19 posted on 10/31/2012 10:54:39 AM PDT by delchiante
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This is really sad. I knew Americans and Christians could exhibit ignorant, bigoted and hateful thoughts. Now I see Jews want in on that action too.


21 posted on 10/31/2012 10:55:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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I can’t believe the days of Bobbing for Dreidels and Pin the Tail on the Yarmulke are long gone.

Can anybody live in Israel and really not know that Christmas exists?


29 posted on 10/31/2012 11:14:06 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (People will vote for Obama to replace a god that they don't believe in)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Admin Moderator

In before the “No thanks”.


31 posted on 10/31/2012 11:15:08 AM PDT by RichInOC (Jesus is coming soon.Â…and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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“In other words, my son, thank G-d, is growing up to be a Jew without any foreign Xtian pollution.....”

Wow! Israel & its cosmopolitan culture wouldn’t be good enough for you, except maybe for those ultra-Orthodox who hurl rocks at women in miniskirts.


36 posted on 10/31/2012 11:21:03 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Free speech is more important than Islam.")
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Interesting article ~ proving something rather astounding ~ to wit: Jewish understanding of paganism is pretty much the same as Christian ~ both are wrong and only hit the high spots. In fact, both of them skip right on past the prohibition against human sacrifice implicit in the use of scarecrows and pumpkin heads. Plus, the writer missed the fact that for most Celtic traditions it was the SACRED PIG that was the chief god ~ not all this decorative stuff.

Not at all surprising for people who tolerate abortion, eh?!

Now, about the arguments you have advanced 'cause you know that when you bring in one of these deals it's like you've already bought into it or you wouldn't bring it in.

You sly devil you (using an idiomatic expression to throw you off base) you know very well every point of Jewish law is in dispute by some authority at some time in history if not at this moment, and there are literally thousands of advocates for even the slightest perception of difference between one outlook and another.

So, who is your authority so that we can get someone in here who can throw a different authority at you?

No sense debating this in a vacuum ~

37 posted on 10/31/2012 11:25:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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“my son, thank G-d, is growing up to be a Jew without any foreign Xtian pollution”

To those Jews who believe they are better than every non-Jew, and do not want “Christian pollution”, I truly wish you would return to Isreal.


43 posted on 10/31/2012 11:33:25 AM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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I went to an Orthodox Jewish day school while I was in grade school, and I simply can't recall if we had any sort of celebration in class on Halloween. I do remember that everyone in my classes went trick or treat-ing, because we all brought in the candy to trade the next day.

I think most of the Orthodox families that did participate in trick or treating, and celebrating Halloween did so because they did not recognize it as having religious origins.

But I suppose that it would be covered by Halacha, as was pointed out.

Mark

58 posted on 10/31/2012 11:50:17 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Good post.


83 posted on 10/31/2012 12:38:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The author of the posted article was talking to Jewish people. IMO, it’s also a good message for Noachide followers like myself. We believe in only One G-d, with no partners, associates, other additives or piles of metaphors about the issue. That’s the First Law for us all (of the Seven Noachide Laws).

Zionist Conspirator: isn’t it true, that we have no commandment to proselytize to or convert Chr*stians or others who believe in multiple deities, associates, whatever? At the same time, some of them shouldn’t be so pushy, publicly insulting and threatening about their Greco-Roman/European religion.

As for the USA, the first Americans (Puritans and other real Protestants) rejected Halloween and other beliefs of official European religion. There are also the First Amendment and various declarations from the first Americans against European religious edicts (see English Civil War, other conflicts).


91 posted on 10/31/2012 12:51:40 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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122 posted on 10/31/2012 3:03:12 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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Several times each year, the Religion forum serves to reaffirm Deism as having been the right choice.


135 posted on 10/31/2012 7:23:49 PM PDT by tomkat
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The law prohibiting our participation in gentile holidays and customs comes to protect our special Jewish holiness and cultural distinction. If you allow your kids to participate in the pagan rites of a gentile culture, they are likely to grow up with pumpkin heads instead of Jewish heads.

On the other hand, if you try to safeguard our distinction as Jews and not let your children go “Trick or Treating” with all the other kids in the neighborhood, there’s a good chance that they will grow up hating both you and Judaism for turning them into freaks in the eyes of their friends. Either way, as a Jewish parent, you lose.

LOL - funny post - thanks for sharing...

137 posted on 10/31/2012 7:46:22 PM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34)
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from the article posted here by ZC In other words, my son, thank G-d, is growing up to be a Jew without any foreign Xtian pollution, and without the schizophrenia of observing the holidays of gentile countries and cultures in foreign gentile lands.

Sadly, articles like these destroy Jewish-Christian relations and play into the false image of them saying " Xtian pollution," -- articles like this serve no purpose except to drive a wedge.

140 posted on 11/01/2012 1:19:35 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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they are likely to grow up with pumpkin heads instead of Jewish heads

Now there's some good, logical advice! /sarc

187 posted on 11/01/2012 2:51:01 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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