Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian
The daughter of a Latter Day Saints bishop and author of a book on Mitt Romney’s Mormonism says that she has concerns about a Romney presidency.
Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either.
“To me, as a conservative, a Republican and a Christian, I cannot justify a vote for either one of the Obamney baby-killing, annihilators of the family, government healthcare mandated to take over our economy socialist evil twins – and be right with our Creator,” she wrote.
Erickson pointed out that neither seek to ban abortion, and both have shown support for homosexuality.
“Republicans say that they have to vote for Romney because we are losing our country to socialism and after another four years of Obama, there will be nothing left of America. I can’t say that I disagree,” she said. “However, what is never talked about is that Romney has his own goals for the Mormon Church [and] The Mormon Plan for America, and while he is cunning and a good debater, he lacks the judgment to discern that he will not become a ‘god’ in his next life and receive his own planet.”
Erickson has been making the rounds on various talk shows and has been featured in news publications for at least the past year, discussing her concerns with Mormonism and a potential Romney presidency.
“While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes,” she wrote in her book Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America.
“It’s like our eyes are glazed over when it comes to the religion of Mitt Romney,” Erickson told talk show host Thomas Hartmann in further discussing the matter. “If you just knew what Mitt Romney believed, you would run far away from this candidate.”
Erickson states that she grew up in a devout Mormon household, and was even married in the LDS temple according to mandated rituals. However, she laments many things that she observed and was subjected to.
“It was horrific,” she told WND. “There I was standing naked [at my wedding]. They brought this bowl of water and started washing my body down, and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.”
Erickson stated that because Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon, he espouses beliefs that are very concerning, including that Jesus was not born of a virgin, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, and that Romney will one day become one of many deities.
“Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven,” she said. “He is going be given his own kingdom/planet. He will be able to call his wife Ann by the secret name that is only given to him in the Mormon secret ceremonies … When he calls her on to his planet, they will have relations to populate the planet with spirit children, as they believe our God has a wife on His planet, and He did the same, and they believe that we are our God’s spirit children from our god mother and god father.”
“So, all of us here on earth, we existed in a pre-existence with God as a spirit baby, then we came down and inhabited these little babies’ bodies that are here on the earth,” Erickson continued, explaining LDS beliefs. “[This was done] so that we could go through our process to venture into godhood.”
She said that there has been a longstanding agenda in the LDS establishment to place Mormons into governmental offices.
“[The LDS establishment has] been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on earth,” Erickson explained.
“They believe that when Jesus comes back to earth in the millennium, that He’s going to come to Jackson County, Missouri, which that’s where they believe the Garden of Eden is,” she added.
Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”
“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”
Erickson said that in Mormon ceremonies, participants must swear to keep secret what goes on behind closed doors. She advised that in rituals that she was involved with, she observed people being forced to make gestures signifying their death if they revealed what takes place.
“They actually had us [symbolically] slashing our guts open and our guts falling to the ground if we told people of the secret dogma of the ceremonies,” she stated.
When asked how Erickson knows that Romney espouses these same beliefs, she replied that Romney has long had high ranking in the LDS establishment, holding office as bishop like her father, and working as a Mormon missionary in France for a time.
“You cannot get more Mormon than Mitt Romney,” she stated. “And I have been through the same temple ceremonies … to follow the church first before anything else.”
“To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the resurrection [of Jesus] can be made to look silly, too,” Romney told CNN last year after being informed of Erickson’s writings and speeches against him.
Because of these concerns, in Erickson’s article this week, she noted that many will vote third party this year or skip the presidential race on the ballot.
“Some have said that they will simply not vote for either establishment candidate, [but] instead, in protest, will write-in another name or candidate if they will vote at all,” she wrote. “I, and approximately 90 million Americans, agree with Charles Spurgeon who says, ‘Of two evils, choose neither.’”
(Yeah, that's who we want as THE leader in the free world...)
The point is that he believes in the good elves and fairies
The point is that Romney believes he is NOW a "god in embryo"...The point is that the one thing the God of the Bible railed against over & over among His people was idolatry -- the raising up of false gods as substitutes for Him.
The point is that the God of the Bible is readily provoked over His people who endorse and sanction men who make themselves out to be competing, rival gods of His.
The point is that the God of the Old Testament allowed His people to be taken into exile (Babylon) for that sin...especially when it was sanctioned by their kings!
The point is that this same God is still the Sovereign of nations, and He still can exercise temporal judgment upon people groups and nations.
There are men here, I'm sure that view pornography ... are they lechers?
Do you want to lock up your daughters ?
Do you fear for your life, your freedom, your sanity ?
Or do you just subliminally file it away as a fact of maleness and don't really give too much a damn that some wise political posters in FR might watch pornography .. and LIKE it ?
You're making Romney out to be some kind of voodoo heebeejeebee and that with comparative hours before an election, you're throwing pennies on the ice hoping a skate might catch one.
Many people here pretty much know the LDS basics and quite frankly Cal ... we're not very riled up by it.
Is it weird?
Yup
Is it dangerous ?
Not to MY mind set.
Perhaps you have something you'd like to confess to us ?
For FREEPER in over 40 states (see post #14), sure it is.
The only quandary is for the TRUE swing states...which stands at about 7 right now.
FREEPER Residents in about 43 states could vote for Virgil Goode -- and such a vote would in no way effect the bottom-line outcome of this election.
It may be a cliche line, but it’s true.
How do you get invited to a Mormon wedding where they strip the bride naked and wash her down.
Sounds better than going to a titty bar.
Do they really do that?
Biggest load of bullcrap of the day post
Choose neither and you’ll end up with Obama.
So what is your point in posting this?
Would it be better to have Christians sit home and thus have Obama elected? Are you saying it would be better to have Obama as president?
Or do you really think Virgil Goode can become president if we all vote for him?
As long as Romney gets the economy on track to recovery, puts a lid on the deficit, and reins in government bureaucrats, he can believe he's the Tooth Fairy and wear a pink tutu and I'll clap politely at his dance recital.
Romney may believe someday he will own a planet.
Obama already believes he owns this one.
Romney may believe that in him is a seed of God, Obama believes he is god.
“Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven,” she said. “He is going be given his own kingdom/planet”
So what? He’ll find out if he gets there.
Again?!? So what? He doesn’t believe what you do.....
Is he of sound moral character? Appears to be....
Does he exercise good sound judgement? Yep
You have a beef with the Morman religion, I and most others don’t care.
Go peddle your wares to the DU forum.....
If you're in a state which is sure to overwhelmingly go to one or the other, and you wish to enter a protest vote, then go ahead and make yourself happy.
I'm in a swing state, so I won't.
1. Documentation would be gathered on practicing, professed Muslims. They would then have 60 days to sell all assets and leave the country. Those too poor to pay for flights would have their exit tickets subsidized. Any other religious belief that decided it wanted to cause similar problems as that of Islam would face similar action.
2. All documented illegal aliens would have 30 days to leave on their own without forcible deportation. After that time period expired, they would be actively searched out and deported using all law enforcement agencies.
3. All welfare would be severely curtailed. Anyone rioting as a result would be subject to imprisonment at hard labor (to teach them how to work again) or shot if they became violent. Welfare would ONLY be for the elderly without means of support, disabled, retarded or very sick people, etc. (truly unable to provide for self).
4. Education would turned on its head. Strict standards and discipline would be reinstated. No tolerance for dissent on that issue at all. Educational programs would be put in place to meet the needs of every child. If a child simply could not do "bookwork" that well, then vocational programs to teach hands-on skills would be available. This is a terrible, deficient aspect of public education now.
5. Crime would be dealt with decisively. Laws would be changed to make it far easier to punish criminals per crimes committed without lawyer interference. No bias based on wealth or connections. If you committed the crime, you WOULD do the time or face execution for heinous crimes. No if, ands or buts. People would be inclined to stay away from situations that might get them in trouble (avoid the very appearance of evil, the scripture says).
6. All business activity would be suspended on Sundays. People would probably, by the time my policies were put in place, be turning back to God or wanting to worship some entity praying for relief from the stress. They would survive. A little devotion to God in times of trouble would certainly be a positive thing.
7. Abortion would be outlawed immediately. How can a nation kill its own? No excuse would suffice to override that decision. Abortion is primarily a means to cover up immorality for most who practice it, nothing else. Homosexuality would also not be tolerated. Other countries exist where that practice is tolerated.
So, you don't like those ideas? That's fine. Then don't complain about the leadership you're going to get. The only alternative is going to be dictatorial rule of some kind. People get the kind of government they deserve. If they turn away from God and the principles in His word, then things go from bad to worse. That is a historical fact. What a lot of you don't realize is that a moral leader would not be tolerated by an immoral people. How can you hope for a moral, righteous leader when the people are immoral, Godless, demanding permission for their anti-Biblical behavior (sexual immorality, lying, drinking, etc.)? A good man can NOT lead bad people. Good people will not tolerate a bad leader. Thus, the divide in the nation.
So, when given a choice between being hit with a tack hammer or a sledge hammer, you wisely let someone else choose for you. Got it.
No, I suggest Christians vote third party (Virgil Goode)
Are you saying it would be better to have Obama as president?
No. But either-one is highly problematic.
Or do you really think Virgil Goode can become president if we all vote for him?
If you live in one of 14 clear Obama blue states: The Left Coast -- CA, WA, OR, Hawaii; New England states like MA, Maine, CT, Rhode Island; DC area, including MD & Delaware; or NY-NJ; or IL and Minnesota...do you really believe voting for Romney in ANY of those states would actually give Romney a single electoral vote?
Answer is plainly "No" ... so until I see you lecturing Blue-staters in those states NOT to vote for Romney since he has no chance of taking ANY of those states, then spare me the question.
Btw: Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party is on the ballot in the following states:
Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, Washington, -- and if Michigan stays blue, that state, too.
Also, you can readily write in "Virgil Goode" in Illinois and Maryland.
If you live in one of these nine states (well, at least eight even if you subtract Michigan), there's absolutely NO reason to vote for Romney. Obama will win these states, anyway. If you've ever told somebody NOT to vote for a third-party candidate 'cause they'll lose, anyway...well, guess what? Your argument just collapsed on yourself in you live in these given states!!!
Alabama, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia (looking more red than swing now), and Wyoming.
Also, you can readily write in "Virgil Goode" in Arizona, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Montana, North Carolina (looking more red now than swing), and West Virginia.
So, even if we exclude Virginia and North Carolina and just concentrated on the other 17 red states listed above, if you're a FREEPER and you vote for Virgil Goode, Mitt Romney will not miss your vote. Obama will still lose these given states!
Therefore, why vote for a liberal pro-abort "god-in-embryo" like Romney when you can't even use a utilitarian relativist reason to do so?
Colorado, Florida (looking more red than swing), Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
Well, this is where it gets "interesting" for utilitarianist philosophies vs. "principle"...
Do you want to train your children & grandchildren to vote always for the "right uniform color" (red) -- no matter what they espouse -- just 'cause it's a political "improvement" over the "blue" team?
Who do you vote for? The idolatry monger "god-in-embryo" Mitt Romney, or the false political messiah who may have Muslim-ties Obama? Or a third party like Virgil Goode -- knowing that God sees your vote?
You WILL have one of them, you foolish jackass.
When I stand before my Creator, I will be comfortable with “Lord, given the tough choice I did not create, I chose the one that was pulling America only ten degrees away from the true angle of Your WORD, rather than doing nothing, therefore helping to choose the anti-Christian Marxist that is pulling this country 180 degrees in opposition to You.”
I have prayed about it and am perfectly fine with it. I detect no still, small voice telling me to slime Romney in an internet forum, because he is not Spurgeon.
Your silly jihad against Romney be damned. If you have your earthly, self-righteous, vain way, this nation will slip yet further into the clutches of Satan.
I once got caught up in this Constitution Party nonsense but my eyes got opened.
They are no more righteous than the Republican and probably worse because these cowards know full well they have no chance of ever being elected to anything and they don't want to be elected. This way they can beat their chests, proclaiming how righteous they are.
If these others are so pure, why don't they stay in the Republican party and fight and strengthen the Republican party?
Stop and think about it. They don't want to. They don't care if Obama is elected to continue to destroy this country--their boated egos are more important.
Let's deal in reality, folks.
So she’s got no axe to grind, right?
I lived in NM for 14 years in a mining town. There were many Mormons and quite a few Commies there. It was an education for an old West Texas farm boy.
Sure Mormonism is nutty. But they were good family men, honest business men, reliable Republicans and did not kidnap Christian daughters.
On the other hand I got a clear view of Communists. I have no illusions of what their designs are.
Now we are witnessing a convergence of the Islamists, Communists/Marxists/Fascists and the Globalists against the Christians and Jews.
Nothing short of dying will keep me from the polls on November 6 and casting my ballot for Mitt Romney.
Wished there were better choices, but our lying media have precluded that from happening.
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