Mormons Want to Excommunicate Romney Critic

The Daily Beast ^ | September 21, 2012 | Jamie Reno

[Zakeet]

After writing negative articles about the Republican candidate, the managing editor of MormonThink.com says he faces excommunication. Is the Church on a witch hunt?

David Twede, 47, a scientist, novelist, and fifth-generation Mormon, is managing editor of MormonThink.com, an online magazine produced largely by members of the Mormon Church that welcomes scholarly debate about the religion’s history from both critics and true believers.

A Mormon in good standing, Twede has never been disciplined by Latter Day Saints leadership. But it now appears his days as a Mormon may be numbered because of a series of articles he wrote this past week that were critical of Mitt Romney.

On Sunday, Twede says his bishop, stake president, and two church executives brought him into Florida Mormon church offices in Orlando and interrogated him for nearly an hour about his writings, telling him, "Cease and desist, Brother Twede."

Mormon leaders have scheduled an excommunication "for apostasy" on Sept. 30. A spokesman for the church told The Daily Beast that the church would not be commenting for this story.

[Snip]

In his role as managing editor of MormonThink, Twede wrote an article about Romney last month titled “The God of Mitt Romney: Why Do Some Claim He’s Not Christian?”

Then last week he posted several stories about the political history of LDS and how the church may or may not influence Romney, as well as a few blog posts that were tongue-in-cheek takes on the church. And that was apparently all it took for church leaders to intervene.

[Tennessee Nana]

Oh dear Elsie...

On the day when you were born the amgels got together and decided to create a dream come true...

:)

[svcw]

Interesting, would someone point out these MANY mormons who are critical of Romney?
A church cooperation has boundaries: IE if you are critical of lds that’s the boundary.

[svcw]

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" (Galatians 4:16)

Apparently so.

[SENTINEL]

Tula, You should care about the methods of the organization that Mitt Romney, Harry Reid, and the majority the leadership of the CIA have sworn death oaths of allegiance to.

This is why you should care.

Christians are to judge the hearts of others, like Christ does. Breakaway Salt Lake sect leaders believe they are sending this man to eternal damnation with their actions...for telling the truth. They are about to gain control of a second third of Government, you should care VERY MUCH.

They will push "Anti-blasphemy" laws under the guise of preventing Islamic terrorism, but it will be tailored to protect the Mormon cult, MARK MY WORDS.

[svcw]

I do not have rules for Salvation, God Himself has laid out the qualification. He is called Jesus Christ.
Your Salvation is up to you, we all have the free will to dwell or not dwell with God in eternity.

[MHGinTN]

‘They’ may try to pass such laws; it has already been done in Canada. But we ought not conflate the vast majority of Mormons with the ruling elite of that religion. I have two doctor friends who are longtime Mormons yet they were completely unaware of most of what blasphemies are recorded in the Journal of Discourses. Their lives are so filled with responsibilities in work and service to LDSinc that they simply have not been exposed to the truth about their ISM. Now, in their sixties, they refuse to delve deeply into that area because they fear losing their faith in the church and perhaps all religious faith, so they just shake their heads and tell me that God is big enough to sort it all out and know the desires of their hearts ... at least one of them I am certin was a Christian before he joined LDSinc. The other, well, I do pray God will sort that one out while still alive.

[Elsie]

The FALLEN ones!

[Elsie]

MARK MY WORDS.

HMMMmmm...

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"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

[Elsie]

The other, well, I do pray God will sort that one out while still alive.<>Indeed; if the following is true at all:

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

[Elsie]

Then last week he posted several stories about the political history of LDS and how the church may or may not influence Romney, as well as a few blog posts that were tongue-in-cheek takes on the church.

Maybe the most isolating thing about being rich in today’s America is the feeling of entitlement. 

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/06/10/david-frum-on-how-romney-s-religion-is-his-greatest-asset.html

 

 

Just a little of that goes a long way...

 

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MORMON

ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY

 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 

                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple

                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)

26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).

 

 

Revision 46.5

Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.

All rights liable to be abused.

[Elsie]

President Hugh B. Brown, counselor in the First Presidency said:

“I admire men and women who have developed the questing spirit, who are unafraid of new ideas as stepping stones to progress. We should, of course, respect the opinions of others, but we should also be unafraid to dissent – if we are informed. Thoughts and expressions compete in the marketplace of thought, and in that competition truth emerges triumphant. Only error fears freedom of expression. . .

 This free exchange of ideas is not to be deplored as long as men and women remain humble and teachable. Neither fear of consequence or any kind of coercion should ever be used to secure uniformity of thought in the church. People should express their problems and opinions and be unafraid to think without fear of ill consequences. . . .

We must preserve the freedom of the mind in the church and resist all efforts to suppress it.”

 

(Hugh B. Brown, The Abundant Life: The Memoirs of Hugh B. Brown, ed. Edwin B. Firmage (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1988), 137-39;

Hugh B. Brown, “An Eternal Quest—Freedom of the Mind,” a speech delivered at Brigham Young University, 13 May 1969, in Speeches of the Year (Provo, UT): Brigham Young University Press, 1969); rpt.

In Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 17 (Spring 1984): 77-83)

[CommerceComet]

I thought you post was very straightforward and possibly even accurate.

Holly_P, that's how we can tell it's you and not your grandpa. ;-)

It's nice to hear from a third-generation Flying Inman. I should let my kids use my account. They are only in high school but they are good at Christian apologetics. They don't know a lot about Mormonism but they know their Bibles and that's all you need to combat Mormonism.

[Holly_P]

Several years back I was using my grandpas computer, signing out of his account and signing into mine and carefully signing out when I was done.

Then came a day when I failed to sign out, he came along and started posting from my account, all went well until he mentioned his WIFE in a reply.

He thought it was funny then, that someone with a decidedly feminine screen name mentions having a wife.

I can assure you, I have no wife. Husband either for that matter.

[svcw]

Hows that leg? How’s the horse?
You have a great group in that family of yours.

[Elsie]

They don't know a lot about Mormonism but they know their Bibles and that's all you need to combat Mormonism.

[Holly_P]

The leg is coming along, the horse is still laughing. Thank you.

[BlueMoose]

Is there a source for post one ?

[Zakeet]

Is there a source for post one?

Since the article was posted with a working link, I must assume you are referring to the caption under LDS President Thomas S. Monson's picture.

The caption was obviously a summary of the gist of the article, combined with LDS teachings concerning the supposed benefits of ascendency to godhood, combined with elements of the following quote by Joseph Smith:

God made Aaron to be the mouthpiece of the children of Israel, and he will make me to be god to you in his stead, and the elders to be mouth for me; and if you don't like it, you must lump it. - Joseph Smith, Jr., Nauvoo, Illinois April, 1844

It is my understanding that Mr. Monson is suffering from Alzheimer's / dementia and thus other officials in LDS Church are issuing statements in his behalf, just like they did for President Ezra Taft Benson. If this is true, the caption obviously could have not come directly from the spiritual leader. Moreover, the Mormon Church is not known for being anywhere near as open and direct as the given statement.

As a result, I had no idea when I posted the article that someone would mistake the caption for an official church response. That was certainly not the case, and I apologize for any confusion that I caused.

[ejonesie22]

lds.org

[Elsie]

As a result, I had no idea when I posted the article that someone would mistake the caption for an official church response.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc1qFGKEGdA