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Catholic or Patriot?
ChurchMilitantTV ^ | 07/19/12 | Michael Voris

Posted on 07/19/2012 3:40:56 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

Catholic or Patriot?

07-19-12
Michael Voris

Hello everyone and welcome to The Vortex where lies and falsehoods are trapped and exposed. I’m Michael Voris coming to you the heart of Catholicism .. Rome .. St. Peter’s Square.

All over the world .. at least the western world .. there is a growing unease that soon and very soon .. Catholics may have to make a choice between their Catholic faith and their country. Between their faith and their patriotism.

As Providence plays out .. it would appear that center stage of this tragedy is the United States of America. All the stars are aligning against the Church and don’t let lawsuits filed by the bishops and Catholic colleges fool you.

The clouds are gathering quickly and darkening for the Church in the US. The American civilization has launched a culture war against faithful Catholics .. just as Otto von Bismarck did in the mid to late 19th century in Germany .. and the French government in the 18th century and the English government did in the 16th and 17th centuries.

Martyrs were born of those oppressive and tyrannical governments. And martyrs will be born of the American government’s tyranny.

When will Catholics wake up and realize that what is working behind the scenes is a battle between Heaven and Hell .. between St. Michael and Lucifer.

Satan .. being defeated in eternity .. still retains his angelic powers to wage war against the Church in time.

And until time comes to an end and human history has played itself out .. Satan will continue to assail the Church .. personally established by Our Blessed Lord on St. Peter .. whom he renamed .. Rock.

Once again .. the bastard destroyer has seized hold of the powers of the state and is bringing them to bear on the faithful. There are still unresolved matters left to be worked out .. details really .. in Obama’s diabolical health care law.

But at the White House .. Obama and Catholic traitors are in full scale advance .. putting in place their view of the world in which the Catholic Church has no part .. the authentic Catholic Church that is.

One day .. and soon .. Catholics in America .. who have been lulled into a false notion that you can be both a good American and a good Catholic .. are going to have to choose between their Church and their country.

We have reached this point for many reasons .. but one that cannot be overlooked is how Church leadership rushed headlong and continues to do so .. into a vision that a government which promotes a vast array of evil can AT THE SAME TIME .. be reasoned with to reach consensus on other questions of morality.

When a man named Obama stood at center stage of the US Catholic world in May 2009 and declared to raucous cheers from Notre Dame graduates, parents and faculty .. that common ground needed to be reached on questions of abortion and freedom of conscience .. he was lying through his teeth and he knew it.

He used the softened up Catholic mind .. the Church of Nice .. to present a soft side of evil .. a side designed to be swallowed hook line and sinker by spineless and delusional leaders who TO THIS DAY .. still actively promote some of his legislation .. suffering under an ignorant and less than fully informed understanding of Catholic social doctrine.

These enemies of the faith .. like Obama .. but certainly not just him .. Pelosi .. Biden Kennedy and hundreds of others come to mind .. these enemies of the faith have been allowed to carry out their assaults against the common good of the culture PRECISELY because so many Catholic bishops and lay staff around the country for decades now have refused to stare down evil and call it out for what it is.

They have refused to decry a law because it is intrinsically evil .. meaning rotten to the core JUST BECAUSE of WHAT IT IS. Even now .. this ridiculous idea of challenging the health care contraception mandate because it infringes on religious freedom is patently absurd.

The law is evil .. NOT JUST UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Who cares if it’s unconstitutional?!?

It’s evil because it promotes an evil; namely contraception. That’s why the law is bad – not because it may (OR MAY NOT) violate some arcane clause in a 200+ year old document that only means what a majority of nine judges say it means.

Here’s the reality .. whether most bishops say it clearly or not. American Catholics will soon be facing a decision whether to cooperate with the state or stand by their faith and pay the consequences.

We have come to this because too many leaders have betrayed their high calling to preach unabashedly and untiringly the unalterable truths of Christ. And even now .. they still refuse to make pubic profession of their full guilt and do something about it.

So it is now up to the laity .. the few who may still have some touchstone to the faith to stand before judges and courts and bureaucrats and pay the price for Christ.

Catholics in America may soon have to discover another way to live in the land of the free and the home of the brave .. something America has not been since it unleashed the slaughter of tens of millions of pre-born fellow citizens.

Make no mistake .. the diabolical has control of the halls of government and is waiting for the opportunity to reveal itself fully. At the rate things are progressing .. we shouldn’t have to wait too long.

Its time to prepare ourselves my fellow Catholics. Immerse yourself in the faith, the sacraments, mind and soul so that when your time comes to choose .. you will choose the way of martyrdom .. however it comes to you and me.

GOD Love you,

I’m Michael Voris


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1 posted on 07/19/2012 3:41:01 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Catholics may have to make a choice between their Catholic faith and their country.

No, they will have to make a choice between their Catholic faith and their government.

2 posted on 07/19/2012 3:42:44 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Twenty years ago, the choice was between faith and government. But, everyone said that people who could see what was coming were conspiracy nuts or right-wing loons. Now that half of the population lives on dole and agrees with whatever the government (and its media propaganda machine) tell them, the choice really is between faith and country. We can take back our country, but it will require more than rooting out bad government because we have the exact government that half of the population wants. It is going to take some hard changes in the the way the people think, and you don’t get those kind of changes by asking nicely.


3 posted on 07/19/2012 3:51:18 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Ann Coulter addressed some of the reasons for the change in the way people think in her column yesterday.

http://www.anncoulter.com/


4 posted on 07/19/2012 3:58:29 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: DuncanWaring

Very true. Our government is NOT our country.


5 posted on 07/19/2012 3:59:19 PM PDT by livius
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Ann addresses symptoms in her article. The cause is that the US has abandoned morals and character. Our faithful are weak and scared of standing out in the crowd and the faithless are multiplying through all the reasons that Ann outlines. We’re all born sinners and we stay that way unless we are touched by God, but our society has reduced Jesus to a wishy-washy hippie who loves everyone, regardless of their actions and just wants YOU to be happy doing what YOU think is best. When God is told to “go sit in the corner and wait until I’m done having fun”, He does just that. Our society is devoted to making sure that the fun never stops, and that is the plan.


6 posted on 07/19/2012 4:10:15 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Catholicism needs an army. Not a traditional army, of course, but a new kind of army, funded by wealthy Catholics, that would work on behalf of Catholic interests around the world. Perhaps such an army would be most described by its missions:

1) Some expert soldiers who would go to oppressed Catholic communities around the world, that are surrounded by hostile people intent on their destruction, to help them figure out ways, mostly non-violent and psychological, to protect themselves. They would bring with them selected supplies to help them do this. If the situation is hopeless, then these soldiers would figure out a way to evacuate these people to safety, including providing them with travel papers and diplomatic protection for their emigration.

2) A defensive fighting force, when there is the threat of what amounts to an anti-Catholic pogram, where the authorities are either indifferent or support the attackers. This mission would be to stand between rioters and churches and Catholics. As part of this they would train local adults to augment their defensive ranks in an effective manner.

3) An intelligence gathering, legal, planning and training, and logistics arm in support of these other missions.

4) A command, control and communications structure.


7 posted on 07/19/2012 4:17:29 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

This is quite timely. My answer, for myself, my wife, and the four of my five kids under my roof: Catholic. If you haven’t seen these yet, may I suggest (strongly) that you take the hour and twenty minutes or so to watch the recent talk Ann Barnhardt gave on parallels between the War of the Vendée and modern US? Especially the second portion. http://barnhardt.biz/


8 posted on 07/19/2012 4:17:29 PM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Catholicism needs an army....

....expert soldiers who would go to oppressed Catholic communities around the world, that are surrounded by hostile people intent on their destruction, to help them figure out ways, mostly non-violent and psychological, to protect themselves....

....A defensive fighting force, when there is the threat of what amounts to an anti-Catholic pogram...they would train local adults to augment their defensive ranks in an effective manner....

....intelligence gathering, legal, planning and training, and logistics arm in support of these other missions....

....A command, control and communications structure....

Viva la Inquisition!

9 posted on 07/19/2012 4:40:35 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2898271/posts?page=119#119)
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To: Alex Murphy
Viva la Inquisition!

Aw, c'mon, Alex! I'm the most anti-Catholic poster on this forum and I'd love to see the Catholic Church actually do something about all the liberals infesting it! In fact, it would be good for everyone.

Do you want them to crack down on leftist dissent, or don't you? By condemning them for liberalism and then attacking them as inquisitionists you're giving off a "d***** if they do, d***** if they don't" kind of message.

10 posted on 07/19/2012 5:07:40 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Wrong!

We will employ our Patriotism in the defense of our Constitution and the protections it provides for the free exercise of our Catholic Faith!

That means fighting the usurpers and those overrunning their constitutional constraints.

Kowtowing to Obama’s mandates is NOT “Patriotism”!!
In fact it is capitulation and the antithesis of Patriotism, to allow him to succeed in his destruction of America.

11 posted on 07/19/2012 5:15:44 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Wrong!

We will employ our Patriotism in the defense of our Constitution and the protections it provides for the free exercise of our Catholic Faith!

That means fighting the usurpers and those overrunning their constitutional constraints.

Kowtowing to Obama’s mandates is NOT “Patriotism”!!
In fact it is capitulation and the antithesis of Patriotism, to allow him to succeed in his destruction of America.

12 posted on 07/19/2012 5:19:16 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
By condemning them for liberalism and then attacking them as inquisitionists you're giving off a "d***** if they do, d***** if they don't" kind of message.

You act like this is something new for him....

13 posted on 07/19/2012 5:23:00 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger
You act like this is something new for him....

Try something novel yourself - ping me when you talk about me.

14 posted on 07/19/2012 5:47:48 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2898271/posts?page=119#119)
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To: Alex Murphy

I wish the inquisition was revived in the Church. That would be one of the best things that could happen. We could finally get rid of the liberals causing so much trouble in the Church!


15 posted on 07/19/2012 5:49:01 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Alex Murphy
Try something novel yourself - ping me when you talk about me.

Are you familiar with the term "calculated insult?"

16 posted on 07/19/2012 5:59:14 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: DuncanWaring

in 1996, I believe, Chuck Colson wrote an article in First Things magazine expressing similar ideas. My secular allegiance is not to the flag or the country. But the Constitution. If Obama wins again I would not be willing to fight for the country but rather to restore the Constitution.


17 posted on 07/19/2012 6:06:16 PM PDT by rcofdayton
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Mike, as noted elsewhere, it’s going to be a choice between your faith and your government, not your country. And Catholics aren’t the only ones that are going to be in that position.


18 posted on 07/19/2012 6:17:14 PM PDT by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon...and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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To: vladimir998; KC_Lion
I wish the inquisition was revived in the Church. That would be one of the best things that could happen. We could finally get rid of the liberals causing so much trouble in the Church!

Crush! Kill! Destroy! Swag!

19 posted on 07/19/2012 6:39:48 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I too can post videos completely unrelated to what was said:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjCtHgNEcV0&feature=related


20 posted on 07/19/2012 7:23:04 PM PDT by vladimir998
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