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Do They Know Who They’re Messing With? (Obama Administration vs. the Catholic Church?)
CE.com ^ | March 15, 2012 | David Catron

Posted on 03/16/2012 9:48:53 PM PDT by Salvation

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Even the non-Catholics are speaking out for the Catholic Church.

I really don't think the Obama administration had any idea about who or what they were messing with when they proposed this HHS mandate.

In my opinion, it won't ever materialize.

1 posted on 03/16/2012 9:49:00 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Go! Cardinal Dolan. We’ve got your back!


2 posted on 03/16/2012 9:51:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

What matters to me is that they don’t VOTE with this administration. If the Catholic church makes a point of telling their parishioners which party is threatening their religious freedom (and hopefully reminding them that Obama’s GOP opponent is a Catholic), they’ll be doing themselves a far greater service than to simply give lip service to a few issues they have disagreements with.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 9:56:19 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Salvation
Cardinal Dolan. We’ve got your back!

Yep!

4 posted on 03/16/2012 9:58:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Salvation

Messing with the Christian church, be it Catholic or Protestant is a GREAT mistake.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 9:59:10 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: Salvation

“Three Irish Tenors - The Battle Hymn Of The Republic”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLun-Ca6b6s&feature=related

Luck of the Irish....even the Orangemen, Black Irish and Scots.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 10:03:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: doc1019

The longs and the shorts of it is that Christianity is the backbone which gave the G7 their level of advancement politically, economically and technologically. In comparison, today we can see the levels of advancement Islam has produced.

Islam does not have one nobel prize for a hard science achievement. Not one technological advancement.

Yet Obama openly supports it, something that is totally antithetical to Democracy and the US of A?

Ever notice how all current patents and great ideas trace back to New York ..... irrespective of how equual Obama thinks all people are?

What have his Kenyans, Indonesians or Muslms created? And he leads us as a nation? Now! Lets talk about a confused people who put him there!!!!


7 posted on 03/16/2012 10:04:04 PM PDT by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: Salvation

Concerning this instrusion, for many Christians of different affliations and freedom loving non-Christians, we are “all Catholics.”

You are fighting this for all of us.


8 posted on 03/16/2012 10:04:12 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: doc1019
Amen! The religious freedom point is the biggest issue for me.



9 posted on 03/16/2012 10:05:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Idle threat.

The lay staff at the US Conference of Catholic Bishops is mostly a collection of liberal social-justice democrat retreads. Many of them are former democrat staffers in Congress.

It is they who brief the bishops and develop the policy papers that resulted in the USCCB supporting Obamacare and going easy on Catholic democrat politicians who advocate and fund abortion.

In spite of all the current furor about Obama infringement on religious beliefs, the USCCB is firmly in the Obama camp on government healthcare, welfare, illegal immigration, and other democrat positions. And the Obama people know it.

The USCCB lay staff liberals fear Santorum (who actually walks the Catholic talk) more than they worry about Obama who has delivered the goods for them.


10 posted on 03/16/2012 10:06:54 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Salvation

http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2012pres/03/20120316g.html


11 posted on 03/16/2012 10:08:09 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("For the sake of our party we must stand united, whoever our nominee is."-Sarah Palin)
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To: oldbill

Good grief, where are you getting all that information?


12 posted on 03/16/2012 10:10:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: oldbill

Look for staff changes soon. When the Bishops came out 100% against this mandate, I think everyone was shocked at first.

Now — as I said above — we’ve got their backs.

God Cardinal Dolan and the Bishops!


13 posted on 03/16/2012 10:11:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“So, what happens if the Catholic hospitals simply refuse to abandon their principles and decide to get out of the health care business?”

So, what happens if the Catholic hospitals simply refuse to abandon their principles and decide to carry on as usual?


14 posted on 03/16/2012 10:12:47 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Salvation

“Julian tried to counter the effect of such “impious” tactics by restructuring the imperial administration in such a way that it could compete with the “Galileans” in good works and thereby erode the connection in the public consciousness between charity and the Church.”

An interesting metaphor for socialism.


15 posted on 03/16/2012 10:15:09 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: doc1019

“Messing with the Christian church, be it Catholic or Protestant is a GREAT mistake.”

I wish I saw more protestant pastors standing up with their Catholic brothers at rallies.


16 posted on 03/16/2012 10:16:01 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Salvation

Abortion is the biggest point for me, religious freedom comes in second. Religion can be an internal thing, a thing that can be held even under prosecution. However, abortion is an external event, the death of a child.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 10:16:33 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: Mortrey

Two very good questions and I doubt that any of us have a “cut and dried” answer.


18 posted on 03/16/2012 10:20:08 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ModelBreaker

Considering the schism between the Catholic church and the Protestant church you would think that there would not be many Protestant pastors standing with the Catholic church. However, this is a common cause and, without exception, most Protestant congregations are standing with the Catholic church on this one.


19 posted on 03/16/2012 10:27:53 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: Salvation

You need to start doing some research - like start off with CCHD head Ralph McCloud, and then read up on his predecessor, John Carr.


20 posted on 03/16/2012 10:29:11 PM PDT by oldbill
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