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1 posted on 03/04/2012 2:05:40 PM PST by NYer
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HIstory ping!


2 posted on 03/04/2012 2:06:22 PM PST by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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A lot of people seem to think that Christianity is a violent religion -- afterall: we fought the Crusades, didn't we???

Well, the Crusades were a reaction against 4 centuries of Muslim depredations. Around about 1099 the Christian World finally decided to fight back. We kept it up for over a century, but then decided that religious wars were not our thing. The Muslims felt differently. They've been fighting religious wars for 14 centuries. Haven't stopped yet.

But we're the bad guys.

3 posted on 03/04/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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Welcome to Vienna


4 posted on 03/04/2012 2:10:32 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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It is ongoing. You are experiencing it now.


5 posted on 03/04/2012 2:17:59 PM PST by allmost
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I think ALL human cultures are capable of all/any brutality. No one culture has ever cornered the market on evil,

The HUGE difference with Islam, Christianity and Hinduism (the three largest faiths in our world) is that we Christians had/have/will always have Jesus. He elevated the status of women (still commodities in many places) and of all humans, even slaves.
Life is short; Jesus gave us His life for our sins. How blessed we are for His gift.

All the comparisons between faiths and cultures PALE compared to the gift from heaven we received 2000 years ago.

6 posted on 03/04/2012 2:23:42 PM PST by cloudmountain
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I have sometimes been watching a TV show or movie, which has absolutely nothing to do with Islam or Christianity, make some slur against Christians in regards to Islam.

They just don’t seem to be able to keep their hatred of Christianity from bubbling to the top.

Typically it is something like this: “That must be how God felt about the crusades”, referring to something immoral or cruel.


8 posted on 03/04/2012 2:29:40 PM PST by yarddog
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Bring back THE CRUSADES and wipe the earth’s butt of the murderous muslim/islamist scourge!


9 posted on 03/04/2012 2:40:49 PM PST by Carriage Hill
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Because it is now almost axiomatic for American school textbooks to whitewash all things Islamic

To me the real eye-opener is to look at the biographies of known middle-ages persons. The two I point to are Maimonides (RAMBAM) who lived in "Golden Age" Islamic Spain (until his family was forced to flee that is); and RASHI who lived in "savage" Christian France. Both of these guys were Jewish Torah scholars so both were dependent on good will of the majority populations in the places where lived.

I have yet to hear a single person tell me that I have unfairly cherrypicked among such biographies to denegrate the supposed greatness of Islam.

And then there is always The Moslem Conquest (of India) . (Such nice people!)

ML/NJ

10 posted on 03/04/2012 2:41:17 PM PST by ml/nj
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11 posted on 03/04/2012 2:41:55 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Simple: Kill the terrorists, Protect (all) the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
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It is only because our government spent the last 70 years stomping on Christianity that Islam has finally found fertile soil here, in a corrupt and deviant society fit not for freedom, but rather despotism.

Right around 911, I read Daniel Boorstin's The Creators.

It cemented in my mind why Islam is incompatible with the very soul of America, why it should be shunned and despised, and why Islamic countries are such sh!tholes.

Here are a few bare quotes to points I am sure you are aware of, but most others are not:

"The Muslim counterpart to Jesus is not Mohammed.

The reverence and mystery that Christians feel toward Jesus the Christ is what Muslims feel toward their book.

The Koranic God did not by create by making the earth, he ordered it. He decreed it into being.

"Islam" is Arabic for submission.

For a believing Muslim, to create is a rash and dangerous act."

Our religious tradition of free will resulted in Constitutional self government. Because of their religion, Islamic Sharia countries are doomed to squalor, despair and misery. It does not deserve 1st Amendment protection.

13 posted on 03/04/2012 3:04:34 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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The following is lifted from notes kept about related material . . .
Want to see 5,000 years of religion in 90 seconds? Ready, Set, Go!

Conventional scholarly wisdom also held that German conquest ended Roman civilization and brought on the Dark Ages. Belgian historian Henri Pirenne [1862-1935] strongly disagreed.

Pirenne relied on written texts -- what was mentioned:


16 posted on 03/04/2012 3:24:03 PM PST by wtd
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Ok, students, this is Charles Martel. In 732 at the battle of Tours, he defeated the Muslims and stopped them from wiping out Christianity in Europe. Or at least, that's how I teach it....
24 posted on 03/04/2012 4:15:56 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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The promise under the Old Covenant and the New Covenant was a Saviour, for the Jew and the Gentiles.

“For God not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved throught His Son Jesus Christ.” (John 3:17)

Everything about His Son was good news to us sinners:
“All we like sheep have gone astray, and the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.” (Isaiah 53:6)

In 1 Corinthians 5:21 we read: “For He[God] hath made Him[Jesus] to be sin for us, who knew no sin that we might be made the righteous of God in Him.”


25 posted on 03/04/2012 4:16:15 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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jihad bump


38 posted on 03/06/2012 7:38:04 PM PST by Dajjal ("I'm not concerned about the very poor." -- severely conservative Mitt Rmoney)
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