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Journalists urged to allow Mormons to define themselves
Deseret News ^ | December 8, 2011 | Joseph Walker

Posted on 12/12/2011 3:27:03 PM PST by Saundra Duffy

WASHINGTON, D.C. — News reporters and editors from around the country were urged to allow members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to define themselves rather than to exclusively look to sources outside the church for definitions of what it means to be a Mormon or to explain LDS doctrine or history.

"Define us by who we are and by our central beliefs rather than who we are not or by obscure or irrelevant beliefs," Michael R. Otterson, managing director of public affairs for the LDS Church, said during a Thursday morning session of a conference called, "Politics and Religion: Getting it Right in 2012."

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Otterson identified for the journalists what he considered the five most common stereotypes of members of the LDS Church — that they are not Christian, that they belong to a cult, that they are insular and secretive, that they are weird and that they practice polygamy.

--snip--

Otterson explained that members of the church are troubled when they are described as not Christian "because that suggests we are not followers of Jesus Christ, and Christ's divinity is a foundational belief in our faith."

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TOPICS: Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: inman; journalism; lds; mormon
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To: Saundra Duffy
Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God; I worship and adore Him; He is my Savior and the Savior of the whole world. He suffered and died to save me from my sins.

And yet you cling to the IDOL that is MORMONism.

WHY?


 
They would not listen, however, but persisted in their former practices.
Even while these people were worshiping the Lord, they were serving their idols.
To this day their children and grandchildren continue to do as their fathers did.
 
 2 Kings 17:40-41 


141 posted on 12/13/2011 9:51:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ejonesie22
Why can’t you answer a question...

It's in the TRAINING!!


 
 
Professor Robert Millet        teaching at the Mission Prep Club in 2004  http://newsnet.byu.edu/video/18773/  <-- Complete and uneditted

 
 
Timeline...    Subject...
 
0:59           "Anti-Mormons..."
1:16           "ATTACK the faith you have..."
2:02           "We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions..."
3:57           "You already know MORE about God and Christ and the plan of salvation than any who would ATTACK you."


142 posted on 12/13/2011 9:53:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ejonesie22
Why can’t you answer a question...

It's in the 'scripture'!!


The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

143 posted on 12/13/2011 9:53:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"...endless quotes taken out of context..."

An oft repeated refrain, yet, a peculiar thing happens. None of the mormons have yet to attempt to place these claimed "out of context" quotes into "context".

It's quite peculiar...that the mormon jesus didn't just die, he killed as well.

Millions killed because apparently his blood wasn't enough of a sacrifice to bring redemption to those in the 16+ cities he destroyed.

144 posted on 12/13/2011 9:57:13 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: ejonesie22
You didn’t answer the question.

Why can’t you answer a question...

It's quite political; isn't it!

Did you know that our beloved Sandy ran for CONGRESS once?

145 posted on 12/13/2011 9:59:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Religion Moderator
Do not accuse another Freeper of telling a lie, it attributes motive, the intent to deceive. It is "making it personal."

Words such as "false" "error" "wrong" do not attribute motive.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

HUH?

Sandy, your deceit is showing out from under your LDS skirt. The quote in post #98 is not ‘taken out of context’. It is a clear assertion int he spirit of antichrist. You know it but have chosen totry and deceive readers into thinking that quote is somehow less devilish is read int he context of the utterance. I listed the JD source date and number, why don’t you show us how the spirit of antichrist will not be upon the utterance if ‘read in context’? You’re supposedly a lawyer, give it a try. BUT if you cannot whitewash the assertion so it is not serving the spirit of antichrist then why not renounce the demonic cult into which you’ve tossed your immortal soul?

146 posted on 12/13/2011 10:03:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MHGinTN

I missed the ‘lie’ part again!


147 posted on 12/13/2011 10:04:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m STILL confused!


148 posted on 12/13/2011 10:05:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

I mistakenly made it personal, kind of the way SD did in #107.


149 posted on 12/13/2011 10:15:59 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: reaganaut

Now R

You know the prayer about pale ale is right there in the Bible...

its in...

well...

its ...

yeah ...

well...

never mind..


150 posted on 12/13/2011 10:18:01 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy; greyfoxx39

Sandy: I love Him and I wish you would stop saying stuff about my boyfriend that is not true.

Now THAT fits your attitude and whining....

Meanwhile our worship of the LORD Jesus Christ must be a whole other thing from that...


151 posted on 12/13/2011 10:22:11 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

I’ll act shocked...


152 posted on 12/13/2011 10:30:06 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: reaganaut; Saundra Duffy
Now not so fast with the implied "no" there as SD's answer.

She did post this:

Repeat: “Christ’s divinity is a foundational belief in our faith.”

So what do we take from that?

I guess we need to know what she thinks "divinity" means...

So Sandy, the question still has yet to be answered...

153 posted on 12/13/2011 10:41:59 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

How did that rumor get started anyway? I’ve seen it mentioned several times.


154 posted on 12/13/2011 10:47:11 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut
Perhaps confusing her with LL or Reno back in the day...

Of course any lawyer being LDS is funny in it's own right. I guess there are schools that don't require the normal logic and reasoning classes...

155 posted on 12/13/2011 10:51:10 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22; Saundra Duffy

Standard Mormon phrase is “Jesus is the Christ”. But they never explain WHAT that means to them. The word Christ translated ‘annointed’. They don’t state anything more specific.

Same thing goes when you ask them what Jesus ‘saves’ them from. It is a difficult question for Mormons to answer since their own theology states they must do all they can do and pay Jesus back like he is a loan shark. Now, if they mean that He ‘saves’ them from physical death, then that only means resurrection and that is Universal. In that sense, even Muslims and atheists are ‘saved’ by Jesus’ resurrection.

Quite the quandary.


156 posted on 12/13/2011 10:52:31 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

Sandy, gravely placemarker


157 posted on 12/13/2011 12:14:31 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: MHGinTN
I mistakenly made it personal, kind of the way SD did in #107.

Oh; I SEE!


Would you please stop spreading falsehoods about my Savior.

158 posted on 12/13/2011 3:31:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Sandy: I love Him and I wish you would stop saying stuff about my boyfriend that is not true.


159 posted on 12/13/2011 3:33:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ejonesie22
I guess there are schools that don't require the normal logic and reasoning classes... taught by Millet?
160 posted on 12/13/2011 3:34:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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