and the greater life’s pain, the greater life’s reply.”
--Joseph Campbell
Posted on 10/30/2011 4:34:48 PM PDT by Colofornian
Single until your dying day? Want to be married for eternity beyond death?
Perhaps you could contact a temple Mormon who could arrange a “matchmaker” religious temple ritual for you "for eternity."
“Perhaps the most unique thing about our temple ordinances," wrote BYU professor Daniel H. Ludlow, “is that they can be performed for the dead…Such ordinances as…temple marriage are performed in our temples for the dead and the living. The ordinances for the dead are performed by proxy-a person living on this earth stands as a proxy and receives these ordinances ‘for and in behalf’ of the deceased person. This work is often referred to as vicarious work for the dead.” (Selected Writings of Daniel H. Ludlow: Gospel Scholars Series, p. 365)
One so “matched” with a “wife” post-death was the Roman Catholic priest in Hawaii, Father Damien, canonized by the Vatican as a “saint” Oct. 11, 2009.
“…research shows Mormons have both baptized Damien by proxy and ‘sealed’ him for eternity to a wife named Marie Damien,” reported the Salt Lake Tribune in October 2009.
Per the Tribune report, Newest Catholic saint baptized and 'sealed' to wife in LDS temple? from Oct. 13, 2009, “There is no evidence Damien ever married, which would have been a violation of his vow of celibacy. St. Damien, who died of leprosy in 1889 after working among those quarantined on the Hawaiian island of Molokai for 16 years, is considered an intercessor for patients with leprosy (Hansen's disease), HIV, AIDS as well as for abandoned children, disoriented youths, exploited women, neglected elderly people and oppressed minorities…”
According to research provided by Helen Radkey into the LDS Church's FamilySearch database, it indicated that Belgium-born Damien “was baptized by proxy, given his ‘endowments’ and sealed to his parents for eternity Oct. 22, 1983, in the Los Angeles Temple. More recently, Damien was sealed to a wife, which Radkey calls ‘bogus,’ on March 15, 2000, at the Jordan River Temple in South Jordan.” (Salt Lake Tribune, “Newest Catholic saint baptized and 'sealed' to wife in LDS temple?" Oct. 13, 2009)
Help!!
They've put this in RELIGION where LOTS of people will see it!
and gosh its now had 22 posts, this is just headline news stuff
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Office of First President & Living Prophet®: November 1st, 2011 The message for this month is -
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Tell that to any Fancher descendants you meet.
You Hateful BIGOT!
You KNOW they are NOT 'secret' but SACRED!!!
--MormonDude(So SACRED that you canNOT find them ANYWHERE in our SACRED SCRIPTURES!)
Time for a smackdown: Joseph Smith vs El Ron Hubbard.
--Joseph Campbell
If the Pharisees did so much outward righteousness, why would Jesus "trash" them as He did?
The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.
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THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
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THESE folks might have an answer for you: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ldsagree.html
Not bad for being up for 12 hours; thru Sunday evening.
That's about 2 an hour.
I predict it'll get much MORE attention now that folks are up, moving around.
They BOTH dead, but at least Hubbard SAID he was running a CON!
JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?
JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?
JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?
JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!
JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.
JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!
JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.
JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.
JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?
JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)
JESUS: That's it.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: Nah - it was right.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.
JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.
JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!
JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?
JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....
JESUS: What did you say?
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.
JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.
JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.
JESUS: No...
JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?
JESUS: Nope.
JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!
JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.
JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.
JESUS: No; it wasn't.
JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?
JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?
JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.
JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.
JOSEPH SMITH: But....
Dang!
Up to 33 alREADY!
You right
LOL.
I guess the “scripture” portion where Joseph’s wife Emma Smith is called out BY NAME to allow him to marry other wives was mistranslated as well (the “scripture” portion that Joseph wrote BTW - no bias there!).
Oops!
Something tells me Emma got to a higher lever then ol’ randy Joseph.
Scripture says in heaven there is no marriage. I’m sure there aren’t an exceptions for Mormons. ;)
Jesus, in the preamble to quoting a verse from the Old Testament said, "...have you not read what was spoken to you by God..." (Matt. 22:31). The testimony of Jesus and of the Bible is that "All Scripture is God breathed" (2 Tim. 3:16).
Therefore, when we open up a page in our Bibles, we are treading upon holy ground. The Bible, although a book, is also unlike any other book. It is not simply a book giving facts about God.
The Bible is a book written by God. Certainly, human writers were involved, but the text of Scripture is inspired or breathed out by God Himself.
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To some people it would seem to be "un-spiritual" to invest time in studying the historical backgrounds, the context of a text or passage in Scripture, or the original language... no, many today want to "feel" something about a passage... or better still, just want the Holy Spirit to whisper His interpretation in their ears supernaturally. This tends to become highly subjective... and the hard labor of the study of the Scriptures is thrown out of the window. Every thought or supposed insight we have needs to be subject to Scripture, and we are not permitted to subject the Word of God to our impressions or feelings about it. ( Like the burning bosom....)
We would never consider someone qualified to practice as a medical physician who read just one paper containing a dozen rules on being a good doctor. Though knowing these 12 rules would be helpful, I'm sure we would agree that there's far more that is needed. Certainly, before a medical board would certify a person as competent to practice medicine they would want to make absolutely sure that the candidate knew far more than a dozen rules for good health. In the same way, there's so much more that could and should be said about how to study the Bible. Yet, with this qualifier, here are a dozen simple rules of interpretation (hermeneutics) which should at least get us started:
1. Consider the Author - who wrote the book? (what was his background, language, culture, vocation, concerns, education, circumstance, what stage of life?)
2. Consider the Audience (why was the book written? who was the audience? what would these words have meant to its original recipients?)
3. The Meaning of Words (this has become a lot easier in our day with all the information and technology at our disposal. The computer program Bibleworks 6 is especially recommended).
4. Historical Setting (avoid anachronism - trying to understand the past while viewing it wearing 21st century glasses - will not help toward understanding the original meaning of the author).
5. Grammar - (how things are being expressed - imperative is a command, a subjunctive would be "would you like to do this?" - two quite different meanings result)
6. Textual Issues - (are there any questions about the earliest or most authoritative manuscripts in comparison with others of a later date - and how does this influence our understanding of what was originally written)
7. Syntax - this refers to words and their relationship with one another. For example, Romans 5:1 says "Having been justified (a past tense action) by faith, we have peace with God." It would be incorrect to think that we have to gain peace with God before justification takes place. The syntax is clear that it is a result of first being justified that peace ensues. Correct syntax is a vital component of sound interpreation.
8. Form of Literature (we should interpret the Bible literally, but that doesn't mean we don't recognize that parables are parables, and that to interpret them correctly, we interpret them as literal parables! Historical narrative is historical narrative, nouns are nouns, verbs are verbs, analogies are analogies)
9. Immediate Context (a text out of context becomes a pretext. It can be made to say something not intended by the author). Always check the immediate context of a verse or passage to determine the correct interpretation.
10. Document Context (in Romans, there is a certain argument which Paul is pursuing, and this helps us to determine what is meant in isolated verses when we know the purpose for what is being written. Always keep the author's broad purpose in mind when looking in detail at the meaning of texts). This, like the others, is a very helpful rule.
11. Author's Context (this refers to looking at all of a person's writings - John's writings, Paul's writings, Luke's writings, etc.).
12. Biblical Context (the broadest context possible, the entire Bible; allowing us to ask if our interpretation is consistent with the whole of Scripture). Scripture is never contradictory to itself.
http://www.reformationtheology.com/2006/04/playing_marbles_with_diamonds.php
I’ll tell you why I care;
Firstly, it’s pagan. It’s not Biblical and that’s been discussed with you and other mormons on FR ad nauseum, ad infinitum.
Secondly, SLC and the many accomplices in temples everywhere are complicit in not only ignoring the many requests to cease and desist, they persist in direct defiance of people’s wishes.
Thirdly, IF, and that’s a big IF, SLC and mormons truly respected the right of men to worship as they please (AoF), they wouldn’t go around doing this so-called “work” that violates a person right to opt out or opt in because they can’t.
If my religious beliefs don’t align with mormonism, why must mormons feel compelled to violate my beliefs all in the name of “just in case”?
No respect, that’s why.
Why do you care that I might care ???
Are you attempting again to deny me my right to worship as I see fit ???
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ????????????????
Whats that number in your “articles of faith” again ???
Courtesy PING to the loverly Elsie Keeper of the files...
The Christian Nana Post #4: This was just evil on the part of the Mormons...
Father Damien died as a Christian doing his Christian duty...
The man dedicated his life to God and then the Mormons dead dunked him into the pagan blasphemy of unGodly religion...
SICK SICK SICK
The Mormon Sandy Post #17: If you think it’s all a bunch of hooey anyway, why do you care?
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Where have I ever said “I think it’s all a bunch of hooey” ???
1. I dont use such terms to describe the blasphemy of Mormonism...
2. Dont bother to look... you wont find a post of mine with such words except this one in which I am merely quoting you, yourself...
As for my personal thoughts of which you are not privy, these are factual written communications from me...
Mormonism is a wicked perversion of Christianity and spits in the face of the God of the Bible...
It goes far beyond “hooey” and into dire evil...
The sickness of Joey smith’s imagination is still being prZacticed by evil greedy men desiring not to have lost people enter the kingdom of God
but instead to line their own pockets with the hard earned savings of their decieved anbd desparate victims...
Mormonism is a ponzi scheme on an enormous scale with far reaching tentacles...
While in Christianity God gave...
In Mormonism it is men took...
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