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Near-Death Experiences: 30 Years of Research - A neurosurgeon’s perspective
The Epoch Times ^ | October 16, 2011 | Stephanie Lam

Posted on 10/16/2011 1:19:00 PM PDT by NYer

DURHAM, N.C.—Eben Alexander was your typical neurosurgeon. A firm believer of scientific reductionism, he thought that all thoughts originate from the brain. But this changed in 2008 when he encountered a case of near-death experience (NDE).

As much as it was the complete opposite of his previous views, he couldn’t dismiss or avoid the case—it was none other than his own experience, and he had to face it and search for an explanation.

Having contracted acute bacterial meningitis, which damages the neocortex—the part of the brain that is thought to involve complex cognitive functions like conscious thought—Alexander went into a coma and spent six days on a ventilator. The chance of survival was very slim, and less so was the possibility of recovering fully.

The normal glucose levels in a human’s cerebrospinal fluid are between 60 and 80 mg/dl (milligram per one-tenth of a liter), and the meningitis infection is considered severe when the level drops to 20 mg/dl. But the glucose level of Alexander’s cerebrospinal fluid was at 1 mg/dl, making it impossible for his brain to function.

However, during the time when he was in coma, Alexander encountered vivid experiences involving multiple senses, such as vision, hearing, and smell. He said that he couldn’t describe how amazing it was.

“What happened deep in coma was absolutely stunning,” Alexander said during an interview.

“The whole situation seems to be much more real than our earthly life, and the sensory modalities were very strange because they were, you know, when I was remembering all this and trying to write it down, a lot of the kind of auditory and visual things that we would normally think of as things that we see or hear, were all kind of blended together.”

For example, he “saw” a beautiful melody appearing as colors in front of him, and he remembered gold and silver arcs of lights as transparent arcs of energy that he perceived as sounds.

“To compare it with sitting here and talking on the phone or working on my computer, it was much, much more real, very rich, and as if I were truly being alive for the first time,” Alexander said. “It was really amazing.”

“My brain right now—I think it recovered pretty well—could not do anything close to what my brain was doing deep in coma,” Alexander said in this year’s International Association for Near-Death Studies (IANDS) conference.

“How does a dying brain end up getting far, far more powerful and able to handle these tremendous loads of information instantaneously and put it altogether?”

“For me the problem was how to explain the hyper-reality. How do I explain such a rich experience, such an interactive experience, one with so much very vivid, and auditory and visual components when the parts of my human brain that normally handle all that were infected with meningitis and were not working. And especially how was it that the mind would experience consciousness, and handling very complex tasks?” Alexander said during the interview.

For months after the coma, Alexander thought about his NDE and tried to explain it from a neuroscientific standpoint. He came up with about seven hypotheses, but later found that none were able to explain fully what happened.

“The standard neuroscientific explanation […] absolutely does not address the real powerful elements of the experience,” he said.

“My conclusion is that the experience was very real and had to happen outside of my brain, and it had to happen outside of this physical universe. […] There is an element of our consciousness that is not dependent on the brain and that is what was set free, for me, and went on that journey.”

“Any scientists who doubt the reality of such extraordinary near-death experiences should begin by explaining the fundamental mechanism of conscious awareness. The evidence for the reality of many related phenomena, such as remote viewing and influence, and out-of-body phenomena, is overwhelming. The reductive materialist view of physical reality, as it currently stands, is not going to fully explain consciousness,” he said.

Alexander has since looked into quantum mechanics as it seems to offer some insights into the phenomenon of consciousness, and thus to NDEs.

"When the enigma of the interpretation of their experiments first came to light more than 80 years ago to the founding fathers of quantum mechanics, such as Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Erwin Schrödinger, Werner Heisenberg, and Max Planck, they knew their experiments revealed a deep mystery. It was such a mystery because it dealt with the intersection of reality and consciousness. It is even more of a mystery today, as revealed by ever more refined experiments,” he said.

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Experiments in quantum mechanics have found that it is impossible to precisely measure a photon or electron’s (or other subatomic particle’s) position and momentum at the same time. These entities would behave like waves or particles, depending on the choice of a conscious observer about how to measure them. The exact measurement result seemed to be arbitrarily chosen from a range of possibilities, but was not exact until the measurement was consciously observed.

An experiment done in 2000 even found that an observation made in the future of a particle could affect the behavior of an entangled particle (one that was generated in the same single process) in the past. The experiment was set up for particles to pass through a double-slit apparatus and end up in four different locations, and the researchers found that just by observing which location the particles arrive at, their behavior back at the double-slit apparatus would be affected.

“I’m worried that some of the physics community today doesn’t sense the same deep mystery behind it all, as did the brilliant founding fathers of the field. The experimental results have gotten even more bizarre with more refined experiments, but many who work with quantum physics overlook the extreme mystery at its most basic level. Quantum mechanics is such a basic part of our lives that a third of our economy (cell phones, GPS, television, computers, all the semiconductor technology, etc.) is based in the physics and mathematics of quantum mechanics. It’s been proven to work very well, but they got away from the deep mystery that is there when you look at the basic experimental results. They indicate that consciousness is crucial in the determination of physical reality,” Alexander said.

It has recently been discovered that quantum phenomena also happen in biological processes such as human olfaction, bird migration, and photosynthesis. Alexander thinks that quantum processes might also be involved with human consciousness.

“The main role in my view for quantum mechanics is that it provides the ‘smoking gun,’ that shows us there’s something special about consciousness in making reality,” he said.

“It suggests that we’re missing a big point about our consciousness and exactly how it interacts with reality. […] I don’t think that by chasing quantum mechanical phenomena to a certain degree that we will come up with the answer about mind and consciousness, although I think it will be very helpful at elucidating the mind-brain interface.”

“I see science and spirituality going forward, together—science and spirituality as being one, and complementing each other beautifully. Both the religious side and the science side will have to let go of some of the more simplistic dogmatic assumptions and statements, but then science and spirituality and this deeper knowledge of the profound nature of our individual consciousness can move forward. The world will be an enormously better place when we do that,” he concluded.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: afterlife; death; ebenalexander; faithandphilosophy; lifeafterlife; nde; ndes; neardeathexperience; neuroscience; neurosurgeon; raymondmoody; science; synesthesia; synethsesias
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To: HangnJudge

They have a “presence”, eh?

Why can’t all of us touch-base like that?


101 posted on 10/17/2011 3:51:15 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

Don’t Know

My own take is it’s a “Word of Knowledge”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Knowledge


102 posted on 10/17/2011 4:01:40 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

Count me among those. Never knew or could have imagined such peace. Then I survived. But have never since feared death.


103 posted on 10/17/2011 4:06:56 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: HangnJudge

“My own take is it’s a “Word of Knowledge”

That’s a good description. Mine stayed with me for 20+ years so far. I’ve found that I could change consciousness frequencies pretty much at will after the experience. I always experience bliss at the higher levels and pure hell at the lower levels. No, it’s not Bi-Polar. It’s different. The psychic abilities that came with it were the worst thing for me to adjust to. I still feel detailed emotions and memories of people around me, inside my body as though they were my own experiences. It is as much a curse as it is a gift.

My favorite NDE’er was a retired military from Fayetteville, NC who died on the operating table at Duke University Hospital while having his lung removed due to cancer. It was over 10 yrs ago. He had the letters from the Dr’s that he was talking while he was flatlined. They thought the anesthesia had worn off. He was funny as all get out as he told his story.

The best research of all on NDE’s is from Ian Stevenson and now followed by Bruce Greyson at University of VA, Charlottesville. Another excellent researcher is P. H. Atwater who has written many books on the subject.

Eben Alexander(story that started this thread) became friends with Bruce Greyson while trying to understand his NDE experience.


104 posted on 10/17/2011 6:27:29 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: HangnJudge

“In my experience, it is more common that one would think, just that many will not talk about it as they believe others will think they are “Crazy”

I’ve learned that there are a few things that many people experience but don’t talk about much, if at all.


105 posted on 10/18/2011 12:30:12 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: HangnJudge
26 years ago my then girlfriend now wife was a CNA in a local nursing home. She was usually the one to sit with the dieing. She too had a NDE after a collapse at the mall in 1985. During the trip from there too the hospital she was describing it too me while in the process of it. The real odd part was it was at East Town and a cop pulled in behind me asking which hospital and escorted us there. I told him St Mary's and he said stick close to my car and he ran lights and siren in front of me. When we got to the ER he imediately left. She made it back but the first 24 hours were touch and go.

Last week I was with my dad in his final few hours of his life. Cancer had taken it's toll and he was past the point where he could swallow fluids. Yet I was watching him raise his hand in a drinking motion and had a satisfied expression on his face afterward. He also seemed to be in communication with his departed sibblings. Days before he passed he sensed a presence of a person in the room we couldn't. One of his last coherent words was he wanted to go be with his dad.

I also know when I was working in nursing homes when a patient told you they were going home and would not be there in the morning they did not mean they were going back too their prior residence. This was true even in ones that were not actually terminal. They knew it many times. You came in the next day and they had passed.

106 posted on 10/18/2011 1:59:23 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: tired&retired
"As a neurosurgeon he has answered your question from his peers many times."

He answered nothing, by explicitly saying that he had no answers.

"...then experiences were verified after the experience."

What pharmacetical was used to generate the same psychedelic experiences?

"The most profound experience was his meeting his natural birth sister who had died, that he never knew he had. ..."

I think that such a significant happening would be more notable, so that it would appear in the posted article. Instead, the notables were on the order of hearing visions and visa versa. BTW, testimony is not verifiable evidence that any such meeting occured. What you claim occurred is impossible to verify.

"I constantly have spirits approach me to pass a message on to the loved ones they left behind. The message is usually, “Tell them that everything is ok.”

Are you a Postal employee?

107 posted on 10/18/2011 12:20:32 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: HangnJudge
Don’t Know
My own take is it’s a “Word of Knowledge”

I suspect we are, all of us, the children (Son) of God.

He sent the Holy Spirit to remind us.

As stupid as this sounds, most of us just haven't developed the skills needed to connect and have trust yet.

“Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.”

108 posted on 10/18/2011 5:56:45 PM PDT by fanfan (The Province of Ontario shall be known as the Liberal version of Walkerton.)
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To: cva66snipe

Thanks for posting that.


109 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:07 PM PDT by fanfan (The Province of Ontario shall be known as the Liberal version of Walkerton.)
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To: tired&retired
I still feel detailed emotions and memories
of people around me,

The Ability to see Suffering,
like one sees a color,
is a profound gift,

to see that it is an
incomplete Answer to our Existence,
Crosses another Bridge...

How many Bridges are there?

110 posted on 10/19/2011 7:42:19 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: spunkets

“Are you a Postal employee?”

I could respond to that with a question such as “Do you belong to the “Flat Earth Society?” but I will not.

All I ask you to do is search for the answers within the facts of known science. And when things don’t fit, look for logical scientific answers that provide more science. I learn far more from investigating the exceptions than I do from the routine events.

Read Thomas Kuhn’s “Structure of Scientific Revolutions.” Understand how the human mind works relating to new scientific insights. The sheep are on both sides of the fence. Use your logic to investigate scientifically.

Science is in the methodology applied, not the subject.

Science is great as it stops the mind from walking in the circles of illogical thought created by denying anything that does not fit your paradigm.

I see this often as I demonstrate much of what I do with MD’s and neuroscientists in a university setting. I’ve had them walk out of my lectures and return over and over, only later to come to me and explain that they were on intellectual overload and couldn’t take it. They saw it with their eyes, but it did not fit their paradigm, even though I was explaining it scientifically. They walked out rather than have a melt down, but kept coming back to resolve their inner conflict.

My personal philosophy is that “miracles” are merely science that we do not understand yet, and that the pathway to knowing and experiencing God is both logical and scientific. That does not mean that I discount everything that I do not understand. I refuse to close my mind. Maybe that is why I can do the things I can do!

Remember, even Jesus said to his disciples as he was sending them out... “The things that I do and more, you too shall do in my name.”


111 posted on 10/21/2011 12:48:37 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: HangnJudge

“How many Bridges are there?”

My Father’s mansion has many rooms, and there is a bridge to each one.

It’s an interesting journey, and like death, it’s an individual experience. Each person must walk their own path. God likes a flat organizational chart... everyone is to have their own direct experience without an big hierarchy.

Seeing suffering is one thing, feeling it as though it is happening to me as well it another. It’s hard to explain in this forum, so allow me to just say that we truly are all “one.”


112 posted on 10/21/2011 12:58:57 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: RnMomof7
If this man is not a believer in Christ then his experience was not heaven..

This man had a personal experience which changed his perspective.

You have an opinion; not even your own original reasoned opinion, but one which someone else has impressed upon you.

113 posted on 10/21/2011 1:22:55 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: fanfan
“Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the peace of God.”

A Course in Miracles

114 posted on 04/13/2012 1:51:19 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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