Posted on 10/16/2011 1:19:00 PM PDT by NYer
I constantly have spirits approach me to pass a message on to the loved ones they left behind. The message is usually, “Tell them that everything is ok.”
I used to clear them out of houses. In a good way,
Thanks dubyagee. I’ve had the thought in the back of my mind that I will just give it a year to feel better. Looks like I better extend the time frame...
Right now, the pain is pretty bad as he was diagnosed last October. Everything about this time of year, early sunsets and such, reminds me of last October. I’m absolutely dreading the Christmas season as he died December 17th.
It doesn’t help that my mom is now in assisted living as my dad was her main caregiver. We tried having her live with us but she is wheelchair bound and I’m not physically large enough to lift her. She’s pretty bitter about that and lives in the land of denial regarding her own grief.
I’ve decided that I need to concentrate on my own mental health before I can begin to help her.
My condolences on the passing of your brother and thanks again for sharing your story with me.
Don’t put time frames or “have tos” on a grief process. For some, they have already processed some of the grief process.
For others like me, it took a long time.
Check out my FR homepage for part of the story.
No kidding. You forgot to say "eyes glazed over" snobs. They are blinded by the group think of their beliefs. Personally I believe in a higher being. If anybody comes and asks for money in the name of that being, I truly know they are fake. I don't even think Jesus wanted money.
Don’t put time frames or “have tos” on a grief process. For some, they have already processed some of the grief process.
For others like me, it took a long time.
Check out my FR homepage for part of the story.
I will take your words to heart. I appreciate the words of wisdom from people like you that have walked the path. It means a lot to me and I thank you.
“If this man is not a believer in Christ”
“What does that mean exactly?”
Maybe RuMomof7 meant was that “if this man has not made a conscious decision to accept Christ as his Savior, and made Him Lord of his life...” (Believing in Christ isn’t the answer; even Satan believes in Christ.)
(Please correct me if I’m wrong, RuMom. Don’t mean to step on your toes.)
He was in the hospital for the last 6 months of his life. There were times he really suffered but most of that time he was relatively comfortable. He was just very weak and couldn’t walk.
I’m still reeling too, although my dad’s departure was long and drawn out. I never expected him to be so afraid and he made it really clear he didn’t want to go, no matter what. He insisted on all medical measures being taken and I saw him brought back twice. I just felt so tired. I knew I’d have to watch him die yet again. He never mentioned any light or feeling of peace, but I’m hoping it was just because he never got that far along in the process. They always had to do what they could to revive him.
Thank you. He certainly had my prayers. I’m hoping he saw that beam of light at the end because my sister was yelling at him not to go and to stay and he shook his head no. Maybe he saw the light and was ready to step into it.
You both might benefit from reading the book, HEAVEN IS FOR REAL. It is told by the father of a little boy who spent time in heaven and was brought back to life. It is in paperback and is in the stores now. I know it would comfort you.
I’ll check it out. Thank you very much.
Oh Melian,
That’s awful. Especially the part about you sister wanting him to stay. That couldn’t have been helpful.
Was your dad in a hospice facility? My dad was in one and they were great in that terrible time.
Dad was barely able to speak in the last couple of weeks. He clearly said, “Go away” his last day. It was always his wish to die alone. I couldn’t convince my dear brother to leave him. I kissed Dad goodbye and left my brother alone with him at midnight. My brother left, exhausted, at 2:30 a.m. Dad died within a half hour later, on his own terms.
Your father most certainly experienced the same thing. He saw the beauty of what lies beyond this place. God bless you and your family. I wish you healing in the days ahead.
“Defending Your Life” is a great movie. Rip Torn explains to Albert Brooks....
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“Defending Your Life” is a great movie. Rip Torn explains to Albert Brooks....
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Please remember to visit the “past lives pavilion...”
Book marking
You said it. It is clear from the words of Christ that we are saved and go to heaven being judged by our works of mercy and not by a formal set of Christian beliefs.
[31] And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. [32] And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: [33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. [34] Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. [35] For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: [36] Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.[...]
[41] Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. [42] For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. [43] I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me.
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[46] And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.
(Mt 25)
why call you me, Lord, Lord; and do not the things which I say?
(Lk 6:46)
Don't trust the Protestant charlatans to explain Christianity for you. They have no clue.
remind me to read about this tomorrow
For me it was my brother who died when I was 12. I still can’t think about him without crying.
With my father, who I dearly loved, he was supposedly brain dead by the time I flew across the country. My brothers and sister insisted that I make the call about taking him off life support. I told the Dr. I wanted to wait until the next day.
I went in and talked to him and he opened his eyes! I thought it might be an involuntary thing so I walked around and he followed me with his eyes. I told him what I wanted to and then I ran to let everyone else have their chance. He died within an hour but what a consolation.
As for grieving, my husband just absolutely HATES for me to cry. He wants to make me feel better and I finally had to tell him, I’m going to cry and there is nothing you can do to help and when I am finished grieving I will stop crying. I got through the process fairly quickly and I do believe it was because of that small miracle at the end.
I say grieve away, it will never completely heal but it will turn into a scar that becomes less and less painful but still there as a reminder.
No, he's pretty clear about that; I doubt he was a believer or he would have immediately interpreted his experiences as heavenly, and he would have encountered the Lord. This doesn't sound like heaven, anyway; it's was just beautiful and awe-inspiring. But it has taken him a step along the correct path. He seems receptive now, and perhaps will be open to taking the Lord as his Saviour.
Scientists are tough nuts to crack; God knows this, so sometimes He is unusually charitable to them, and kindly shows them such things so that they will inquire after Him. I've known other cases a bit similar to this, in which a hard-boiled pragmatic scientist gets a gentle wake-up slap from God. It's a wonderful thing to watch. Scientists get to see the fascinating way God created the universe, and can be very joyful believers as a result.
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