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From the review: ...Foster, an ardent Romney supporter, is admirably objective about the many weaknesses that undermined Mitt Romney’s run for the Republican presidential nomination, his thesis in this book is that these flaws could have been overcome if not for a larger issue that eventually doomed the Romney campaign: the Mormon Question...Even though Foster doesn’t quite arrive at this particular destination, the sobering conclusion that his presentation inevitably yields is that if a Mormon is to be elected United States president in the foreseeable future, he or she may have to run as a moderate Republican or, perhaps even more realistically, as a moderate Democrat.

Well, Romney was doomed by BOTH the "Mormon Question" and his RINO flip-flopping!

1 posted on 06/12/2011 5:02:04 PM PDT by Colofornian
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His problem is not that he’s a Mormon....it is that he’s Mitt Romney.


2 posted on 06/12/2011 5:06:50 PM PDT by proxy_user
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A Different God?

Yup.

The Mormon gods are distinct from the one true, Ultimate God.

Here is a key god of the Mormons:

God and man are of the same race, differing only in their degrees of advancement” (Lds “apostle” John A. Widtsoe, Rational Theology, 1915, p. 61)

”According to revelation, however, he is a personal Being, a holy and exalted Man, a glorified, resurrected Personage having a tangible body of flesh and bones, an anthropomorphic Entity, the personal Father of the spirits of all men.” (Bruce R. Mconkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 250)

The doctrine that God was once a man and has progressed to become a God is unique to this Church.” (Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young, 1997, p. 34)

We offend again in our doctrine that men are of the same race with the divine personages we call Gods. Great stress is laid upon the idea that we believe that 'as man is, God once was, and as God now is, man may become.' The world usually shouts 'blasphemy' and 'sacrilege' at one when he talks of such a possibility (B.H. Roberts, 1992, Defense of The Faith and The Saints 2:570)

(Roberts, Btw, was a Democrat elected by Utah voters as one of its first Congressman...Congress sent him packing and never allowed him to be seated because Roberts took simulaneous wife #3 in 1893 or 1894 AFTER the supposed announcement that the Mormon church would address polygamy).

The Father is a glorified, perfected, resurrected, exalted man who worked out his salvation by obedience to the same laws he has given to us so that we may do the same.” (Lds “apostle” Bruce R. McConkie, A New Witness for the Articles of Faith, p. 64)

“When you can thus feel, then you may begin to think that you can find out something about God, and begin to learn who he is. He is our Father—the Father of our spirits, and was once a man in mortal flesh as we are, and is now an exalted Being.” (Brigham Young, Oct. 8, 1859, JoD, 7:333)

It appears ridiculous to the world, under their darkened and erroneous traditions, that God has been once a finite being; and yet we are not in such close communion with him as many have supposed,” (Brigham Young, Oct. 8, 1859, JoD, 7:333)

“The idea that the Lord our God is not a personage of tabernacle is entirely a mistaken notion. He was once a man.” (Brigham Young, Feb. 23, 1862, JoD, 9:286)

“What, is it possible that the Father of Heights, the Father of our spirits, could reduce himself and come forth like a man? Yes, he was once a man like you and I are and was once on an earth like this...He had his father and his mother and he has been exalted through his faithfulness, and he is beomce Lord of all.” (The Essential Brigham Young, p. 138)

“Knowing what we know concerning God our Father-- that he is a personal being; that he has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as our own; that he is an exalted and glorified being; that he was once a man and dwelt on an earth – and knowing that this knowledge was had by many of the ancients, should we be surprised to find legends and myths throughout the cultures of the earth concerning gods who have divine power but human attributes and passions?” (BYU professor Robert L. Millet, “The Eternal Gospel,” Ensign, July 1996, p. 53)

”Joseph Smith did in fact teach that God is a Man of Holiness, an exalted and glorified man.” (BYU professor Robert L., Millet, The Mormon Faith: Understanding Restored Christianity, p. 169)

”Joseph Smith's purpose is to show that the Bible teaches that our Father in Heaven was once mortal, as we are.” (BYU professor Emeritus Joseph Fielding McConkie and Craig Ostler, Revelations of the Restoration, p. 1087)

Imagine "President Romney" praying to such a god for help in a crisis!

ONE OTHER very key different as to why Mormons have a "different god": They believe that the ONLY ones who get to live forever with this god are...
...Married to worthy, faithful temple Mormons...[singles not allowed...or women married to unworthy Mormons not allowed]

This means that if you are not a temple Mormon, the Mormon church says your chances of living with this god forever are nil.

3 posted on 06/12/2011 5:11:13 PM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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So many things in this world are upside down. I wish we could go back to a time when blacks were republican and mormons were democrats.


4 posted on 06/12/2011 5:14:11 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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From the review: ...most Mormons are rather uneducated regarding their political past, particularly the theocratic era that prevailed until the Edmunds–Tucker Act precipitated several changes, including the Manifesto in 1890 and the disbanding of the People’s Party in 1891. The fact that most Mormons at the time gravitated toward the Democratic Party might surprise some of their modern descendents.

Yup. Many Mormons were Democrats up until the early 1890s when Mormon leadership told many of the sheep to switch parties. They wanted to come across to national political leadership as more balanced so that statehood would not be denied them.

Imagine that. Mormons switching parties 'cause their leaders told them to!

Want a source?

During most of the 19th century, Utah was polarized along local rather than national party lines. Two local parties dominated the political scene: the “Mormon People’s Party” and the “Gentile Liberal Party.” When Mormons did think in terms of national politics, they were almost universally Democrat, as the Republicans opposed Utah statehood. Brigham Young was a life-long Democrat.

In order to gain the senate’s approval for statehood, Utah was required to “normalize its political allegiances.” The Church disbanded the Mormon People’s Party but feared that a mass Mormon migration to the Democratic Party would displease Republican senators. Church leaders sent Apostle John Henry Smith to visit LDS congregations. It was possible to be a faithful Mormon and a Republican, he explained to the amazement of many LDS faithful. In 1893, the Church even asked some specific families to become Republicans, a move that would be unimaginable today.

Largely because of this Church effort, Republicans and Democrats were both well-represented around the turn of the century. The Democrats had some impressive victories; in the first presidential election after Utah statehood in 1896, Democrats earned eighty percent of the presidential vote for William Jennings Bryan and elected many of their own to state, local, and national offices. Democrats also had great successes in the 1910s, in the 1930s with the rise of Franklin D. Roosevelt, and in 1964 with the Lyndon B. Johnson landslide

Source of above: Mormons and politics

Other historical background info of Utah State and Utah Territory:

State politics was reorganized after the 1890 Manifesto discontinuing polygamy was announced, and both the Republican and Democratic party emerged in the state. Many assumed that the traditional ties of many LDS Church leaders to the Democratic party philosophy would make Utah a strong Democratic state. In 1894, however, Republican Frank J. Cannon was elected Utah's delegate in Congress and the Republicans elected 60 members to the Constitutional Convention, a 13-vote majority over the Democratic. [Source for this & below quotes: http://www.media.utah.edu/UHE/d/DEMOCRATIC.html ]

Now keep in mind, this Republican surge was initiated pre-statehood admission. When we look at the actual first post-statehood election in 1896, what do we find?

In the first presidential contest held after achieving statehood in 1896, however, Utah Democrats did well, drawing more than eighty percent of the presidential vote for William Jennings Bryan and electing a variety of Democrats to state and local office as well. That same year, William H. King was elected to Congress and the Democratic legislature selected Joseph L. Rawlins to serve as U. S. Senator. Two years later, the Democrats elected B. H. Roberts to Congress although he was denied his seat because of his practice of plural marriage. Roberts was eventually replaced by William H. King in a special election held in April 1900.

We know that in the Utah state Legislature assuming office that 39 in the Utah House of Reps in 1897 were Democrats, only 3 were Republicans & 3 were Populists. In the state Senate, it was a 17-0 shutout for the Democrats (plus one populist).

By 1900, the parties became balanced, and then the Democrats dropped off for a while in Utah as Republican’s Teddy Roosevelt’s ways carried the national day:

But the Democrats rebounded with the help of the Progressive Party in 1914: In 1914, Utah Democrats allied with the Progressive party to take control of both houses of the Utah legislature as well as many county offices. Two years later, the Democrats scored a major victory garnering the state's electoral votes for Wilson, and electing Simon Bamberger as Governor, William H. King to the U.S. Senate and both representatives in Congress. The state legislature was overwhelmingly Democratic as well.

6 posted on 06/12/2011 5:20:16 PM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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I’d prefer a modern mormon president over a muslim president any day.


9 posted on 06/12/2011 5:31:37 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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...the Jesus of Christianity is different than the Jesus of Mormonism despite the marketing being done that calls the Book of Mormon (BoM) “Another Testament of Jesus Christ”. The truth is Mormonism teaches a different God, a different Jesus, and a different Christianity.

That the God and Jesus of Christianity are not the same as the God and Jesus of Mormonism is not merely my opinion but comes from prominent Mormons and is borne out upon examination.

At the 147th General Conference, General Authority Bernard Brockbank (a Mormon) stated:

"the Christ followed by the Mormons is not the Christ followed by traditional Christianity. It is true that many of the Christian Churches worship a different Jesus Christ than is worshiped by the Mormons” The Ensign, May, 1977 pg.26.

In 1998 LDS President Hinckley spoke of claims outside the LDS church that ‘Mormons do not believe in the historical Christ’ and whether or not he regarded the Jesus of Christianity as the same Jesus of Mormonism:

“No, I don’t. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times*. He, together with his Father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820 and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more about the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages.” Church News, June 20, 1998. * the term "Dispensation of the Fullness of Times" is used by the Mormon Church to denote "the last days" that Joseph Smith was said to have ushered in.

http://www.freewill-predestination.com/mormon.html
11 posted on 06/12/2011 5:35:22 PM PDT by Proverbs 3-5
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If Romney was a real mormon he wouldn’t be supportive of gay marriage. He wouldn’t be pro-abortion. Even Harry Reid is more pro-life than this guy.


22 posted on 06/12/2011 6:13:31 PM PDT by ari-freedom (All we are saying....is give the military a chance)
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Romney has already made the move to abandon the conservative Republicans. He is not running the Iowa straw poll and one other early conservative poll. Romney has made statements affirming Romneycare and more recently, global warming. Romney is running as a Massachusetts Republican.

I think that the Republican Party in WA State is setting up to endorse Romney. There are lots of signs, including the fact that he was the key note speaker at our convention last year. Romney said all the right things last year and even cried like Glenn Beck, but this year, he’s already backing off his conservatism.


29 posted on 06/12/2011 6:24:09 PM PDT by Eva
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Foster presents a good deal of information that most Latter-day Saints will not be well acquainted with, such as the difference between evangelical and fundamentalist Christians, the emergence of the charismatic movement, the rise and fall of the Moral Majority, and the subsequent establishment of the Christian Coalition.

There's a DIFFERENCE?

33 posted on 06/12/2011 6:41:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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Romney needs to know the true Jesus. Because if he truely gets to know Him, he’ll repent for supporting teenage girls to be taken out of state without their parents knowldege or permission to get abortions when he was governor of Massachussettes.

That’s asking alot, I know. But clearly, the Mormon god isn’t doing it for him.


35 posted on 06/12/2011 6:43:38 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (I hate posting with ipad:( too many typos!)
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Because official Church curriculum does not address in detail the period from about 1850 until World War II or even later, most Mormons are rather uneducated regarding their political past, particularly the theocratic era that prevailed until the Edmunds–Tucker Act precipitated several changes, including the Manifesto in 1890 and the disbanding of the People’s Party in 1891.

They are pretty ignorant about their THEOLOGICAL past as well.

And HISTORICAL past, too!

36 posted on 06/12/2011 6:44:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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A Different God?
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Different godsssssssssssss


46 posted on 06/12/2011 7:02:36 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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If it wasn’t for the Mormons, Prop 8 wouldn’t have passed in California. They were the ones that pushed the issue. They were the ones who the gays protested and ridiculed.


49 posted on 06/12/2011 7:10:19 PM PDT by ari-freedom (All we are saying....is give the military a chance)
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Even though Foster doesn’t quite arrive at this particular destination, the sobering conclusion that his presentation inevitably yields is that if a Mormon is to be elected United States president in the foreseeable future, he or she may have to run as a moderate Republican or, perhaps even more realistically, as a moderate Democrat.

The one that's running is doing exactly this.

55 posted on 06/12/2011 7:21:47 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama are not rivals, they're running mates." - Rep. Thaddeus McCotter)
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It's on!


61 posted on 06/12/2011 7:39:21 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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