Messiah: Behold The Lamb Of God (REAL Mormon / LDS)

BYUtv ^

[Paragon Defender]

In a day when many scholars have reduced Christ to a historical or purely figurative being, this seven-part documentary series stands to affirm His divinity by reconciling the historical Christ with the Christ of religious tradition.

Filmed in part on location in the Holy Land and in conjunction with the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship, Messiah: Behold the Lamb of God is the first documentary that covers all phases of the Savior's life - spanning His premortal existence to the resurrection and restoration of the gospel - all told from a Latter-day Saint perspective.

http://byutv.org/messiah/

[Elsie]

 

THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

 

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

 

  1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

  3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

  5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

  7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

  8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

  12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

  14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

  15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

  16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

  19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

  20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

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[Utah Binger]

HEY!

Just getting the early evening buzz. Washed my body outside and most important inside. Just continue keeping the lightweights occupied as we party in earnest.

Coke® and Rum works too. Not my favorite but lots of Mormons love it when partying as it looks like their normal daily drink.

[Elsie]

The “art” falsely claims truth to be blasphemy.

And MORMONism claims that LIES are TRUTH.

No WONDER you are so confused.

[delacoert]

I play no stupid game.

"Stupid is as stupid does."
Forrest Gump

Having to tell the world that you're not stupid, probably isn't a good sign.

Just sayin'.

[Elsie]

Does any of your links have the instructions on what to do during the MORMON Temple rituals?

I’ll bet folks would REALLY like to read them themselves; instead of just HEARSAY from ex-mormons.

[Elsie]

5 That inasmuch as any man drinketh wine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, pure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

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So; when MORMONs have Communion, do they bring wine from home that they made; or does ZCMI stock a fine MORMON wine that is used?

[Utah Binger]

I prefer Idaho Vodka made from Mormon Potatoes. Normally we use it for the sacraments on Friday and Saturday nights as we look forward to serious hangovers on Sunday.

[CommerceComet]

I have never claimed to be an apologist.

Maybe you haven't claimed it but you certainly fit the definition: "somebody who defends a doctrine or ideology."

I have read material from those links. You constantly moan that the same stuff is always being raised as an issue. It is because the quality of the responses (as shown by these links) is woefully inadequate. If you put aside your loyalty to all things LDS and put your brain in the "on" position, you would see this, too.

A little heartfelt and humble prayer would be good too.

Years ago, before I became a Christian, I was being actively recruited by a Mormon co-worker. I prayed sincerely and consistently for quite some time for the Lord to guide me in this area. He provided an answer by placing some Christians in my life who got me started in a Bible study where I heard the Gospel of Grace. Shortly after that I became a Christian and really didn't give Mormonism much more thought for several years until I started graduate school when I had several Mormons as fellow students. At that time, I began to re-examine Mormonism and realized how thankful I was to the Lord for protecting me from that "church". I still thank Him for protecting me when I was a babe in the woods and revealing to me the real Jesus Christ, not the figament of Joseph Smith's imagination.

I still pray for my Mormon friends from graduate school. I never encountered so-called "Christians" with less spiritual discernment than Mormons. PD, you reconfirm that to me each time I see you post. Mormons are incapable of understanding the simplest of theological concepts because these concepts are as Paul tells us "spiritually discerned." (1 Corinthians 2:14) Walter Martin observed well when he stated that "explaining spiritual matters to a Mormon is like trying to describe a rainbow to someone who has been blind since birth."

I am concerned for you, PD, as you come across as someone who has been seriously brain-washed. I will continue to pray for you because the Holy Spirit can overcome even your willful blindness.

[MHGinTN]

"Behold the Lamb of God is the first documentary that covers all phases of the Savior's life - spanning His premortal existence ..." Apparently, the demonic deceit of Mormonism knows no bounds! Are all Mormons as deceitful as you, PD? You deceive readers with this septic poison, knowing full wee that Mormonism doesn't believe what the Bible clearly states reagrding Jesus ... See John 1, for the REAL truth the demonic mormon religion seeks to deflect with this LDS bilge spittle.

John 1 says Jesus was with God in the Beginning and WAS GOD [ "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." KJV ]. Mormonism reduces the truth given in the Bible regarding The Word, Jesus, made flesh Who dwelt among us to the mormon jesus being conceived via union of a goddess and god who was appointed by a council of gods to rule over the earth. You demons need to give it a rest, PD, you aren't going to catch us napping at FR so you can slide through some more of your devilish deceits. Perhaps you should read the Mormon/LDS Journal of Discourses, so you will know where your religion is lying to you, if it would matter to someone who gladly swallows the layers of lies and spits them out as 'truth' at FR!

[MHGinTN]

In answer to your question, yes, this must be played out every time this blatant liar seeks to deceive readers at FR. There is the outside chance that the poster doesn’t know he is posting lies and blasphemies, but personally I don’t give him/her/it that much credit. it knows it is spreading the blasphemies of mormonism and is enjoying the spectacle it creates from the responses which work to set the record stright and oppose the daily LDS anti-Christian dogma. So we keep posting direct quotes from the founders of this anti-Christ religion fashioned to appear like Christianity but purely a demonic deception.

[PeachyKeen]

“enjoying the spectacle it creates from the responses which work to set the record stright”

BINGO..I have said this also. PD ENJOYS the attention and when he has 4 or 5 threads going at the same time, he’s is hog heaven! Hit and Run..Hit and Run!!

[MHGinTN]

Is that Vodka really any better than the Polish potato Vodka?

[delacoert]

More and more lately your post have that Pee Wee Herman "I know you are, but what am I?" quality.

I don't really care because I do not now, nor have I ever had any respect for either you or your message, but as I watch you unravel in public I have started to become "curiouser and curiouser". Who is your intended audience? Most people assume a style that is intended to address an audience they picture in their minds.

You, being a backyard professor, who do you perceive is in your backyard? The several FR lurkers who are Mormon? Do you imagine a larger FARMS/FAIR/SHIELDS/BYU constituency who may someday appreciate your internet legacy? Something else?

[ejonesie22]

Oh I know the game must be played. Indeed the obvious ploy so works in our favor...

[ejonesie22]

Um...

No.

[Paragon Defender]

You constantly moan that the same stuff is always being raised as an issue. It is because the quality of the responses (as shown by these links) is woefully inadequate.

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um not so much. The inadequacies are on the side of the regurgitated propaganda. But thanks anyhoo.

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If you put aside your loyalty to all things LDS and put your brain in the “on” position, you would see this, too.

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If you put aside your loyalty to all things anti-LDS, put your brain in the “on” position, and sincerely sought the truth from God with a humble heart you would see the truth too.

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I am sorry to hear your story about how you were pulled away from Christ’s Church. That was my story as well for awhile. I even used some of the same regurgitated nonsense propaganda that the anti-Mormon gang here uses.

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I am concerned for you, CC, and the rest of the anti-Moromn gang on FR as you all come across as people who have been seriously brain-washed. I will continue to pray for you because the Holy Spirit can overcome even your willful blindness.

This is very true and I mean it sincerely.

[Paragon Defender]

“Behold the Lamb of God is the first documentary that covers all phases of the Savior’s life - spanning His premortal existence ...” Apparently, the demonic deceit of Mormonism knows no bounds! Are all Mormons as deceitful as you, PD? You deceive readers with this septic poison, knowing full wee that Mormonism doesn’t believe what the Bible clearly states reagrding Jesus ... See John 1, for the REAL truth the demonic mormon religion seeks to deflect with this LDS bilge spittle.

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What a bunch of baloney. You’re the spittle spewer here I am afraid.

I have NEVER been deceitful on here. Shame on you.

By the way, nice mind reading. I won’t complain to the authorities though. I am sorry you cannot accept the true meanings of all scripture. And your ridiculous assertions that the LDS Church is in any way demonic is truly bizzaro.

Take a deep breath and say a prayer. You are losing it.

[MHGinTN]

You work for the father of lies a murderer from the start. Your work at FR could actually send some duped souls to Hell. So, now you deny, like your father did throughout History, and that prompts the posting of the blasphemies your religion touts as LDS inc truth:

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

 - Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

 

 

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

 

 

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"

- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

 

 

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

 

 

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

 - Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

 

 

 

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

 - Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

 

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They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

 Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

And we're just getting start, PD. How about that LDS teaching that the jesus of mormonism was a polygamist! Yeah, that's up next.

[MHGinTN]

Mormonism teaches a layering of lies which are all designed by an evil genius who is the father of lies. These layered lies assert that

--the god of Mormonism was once a man and had to earn the attributes of godhood;
--that this god, once he earned the position of godhood, was then selected by a council of gods to be the god over earth;
--that this god had one or more goddess wives who sired untold billions of spirit children into existence, one of whom, the jesus of Mormonism, became a god like the Mormonism god through earning the attributes of godhood and becoming one of three in the Mormonism godhead troika;
--that this jesus of Mormonism has a spirit brother sired by the Mormonism god and his goddess(s), satan, the now fallen angel.

Such lies are designed to demote The One God into nothing greater than a progression of gods back through some temporal fairyland, with the jesus of Mormonism having been created by union of a god and goddess, and jesus's father god having been created in the same way, etc. This is so similar to the polytheism of ancient Greece and Rome, with gods and goddesses creating through sex a series of mortals and gods and goddesses! THIS IS NOT CHRISTIANITY. This is blasphemy fabricated through a series of twisted lies about God and Jesus and The Holy Spirit.

[Paragon Defender]

Mormonism teaches a layering of lies which are all designed by an evil genius who is the father of lies.

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100% false.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is Christ’s true Church restored to earth in these latter days.

Don’t let the anti-Mormon propaganda lead you astray. Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the “issues” brought up in the anti-Mormon propaganda can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here’s more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Best wishes to you all. Seek the truth!

Have a good night!