Posted on 02/22/2011 2:53:04 PM PST by Natural Law
An alarming trend is developing in the Free Republic Religion Forum in which a caucus identifier is being claimed for non-existent or impossibly defined groups. With the caucuses being self defined we see nonsense like the Sola Scriptura Caucus. Of course it doesn’t mean all Scripture, only the thread initiators or Forum Moderators definition of Scripture. Jews who believe in the Scripture of the Old Testament are excluded. Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses are excluded even though they believe in the sufficiency of their own versions of Scripture. The not so transparent purpose of these faux caucuses is clearly to exclude a group of FReepers in a modern day repetition of “Whites Only” and “Irish Need Not Apply” prejudice. If this is allowed to stand what will we see next; caucuses so narrowly defined so as to only include one’s bridge club or to exclude an individual FReeper? How about a caucus designation for everyone but citizens from New York? How about a men’s only caucus? How about a caucus for those of us who drive BMWs? And what is being discussed in these faux caucus threads? Critical doctrinal issues such as ruggedized aircraft, home schooling, and civil unrest in Egypt. Give me a break!
Do Arabic speaking Protestants, who use their native word Allah, worship a false deity?
What a great example of reading incomprehension.
The fact remains, illustrated by your posts, that you mistakenly thought closed caucuses were requested by Protestants when in fact they were demanded by Roman Catholics; many of those same Roman Catholics who now deny that same privilege to others.
they're saying that without a limit on who can join their causes
Protestants couldn’t leave people to talk among themselves
Mindless contradiction, thy name is Rome.
Also I did not attack. I did not challenge any of the article. I supported the premise of the article. So I am a bit puzzled why you are so upset.
I don't care who requested them and I don't care that someone who defends others who “make a joke” has no sense of humor themselves as is obviously the case with you. I just want to know what's the problem with the Sola caucus and if it is that another caucus was denied.
And yet dozens of times on the forum Roman Catholics have demanded we drop the "Roman" and only address the papists as "Catholics."
Go figure.
I'm trying to find out.
I asked you very politely why it was a caucus. If you had explained why I would have respected that.
What does it matter to you? There is nothing in the article regarding your church and no one was posting anything about your church. Why do you think you can ask for anything else?
Let us look at the ministry of Jesus. Where did He have the new Christians take instruction from? His new Church. He never wrote anything down that we know of, with the exception of what He wrote in the dust.
He taught the Apostles, the disciples and the crowds. And what did the Apostles after Pentecost do? They taught as well, but mostly not from Scripture. What did Peter teach from after Pentecost? From his own authority given to him by the Holy Spirit. From this source, comes our current authority to teach.
Let us turn to Paul. Ephesians 2: 19 So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the holy ones and members of the household of God, 20 built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the capstone. 10
Built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets. What further does Paul say? 1 Timothy 3: But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth.
The pillar and foundation of truth? Sounds like Jesus is delegating His authority to the Church. Do we have more evidence?
Matthew 16:. 18 And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, 13 and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. 14 Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
The keys are the final clue. Kings in those times gave the keys to the kingdom to their chief steward who looked after the day to day affairs for them. If the king went on a journey, the steward looked after the kingdom for him until he returned.
Thus it is with the Church. They have the God-given authority, as Scripture affirms. The children of the Reformation do not.
“And yet dozens of times on the forum Roman Catholics have demanded we drop the “Roman” and only address the papists as “Catholics.”
Go figure.”
Catholic > Roman Catholic > papist
Indeed, recently.
Please obey the rules and refrain from making personal comments about individual FReepers.
Is that funny enough for you?
Was it an open thread? No.
Did you decide to post on it anyway? Yes.
If I had wanted to deal with the typical RC nonsense I would have posted it as an open thread. It is the height of arrogance to assume you can just jump on threads and make demands. It seems to be a common trait among your church members.
I asked him to put it back. I do apologize for causing you any grief. I have always enjoyed reading your posts, especially those from Albert Mohler.
I thought you’d recognize the first post to which you responded, I’m sorry you didn’t. I was so like another that was defended as humor.
I’m also sorry for saying anything personal, now you have a nice day.
We Catholics are aware of this passage. Those who pray the Liturgy of the Hours daily read it just a few weeks ago and read it every year. And of course we are aware of the question of how it touches on our idea of apostolicity.
But if we were to struggle to articulate our thinking to the point where it seemed that you understood it, we would never get done. It would deteriorate into bedlam and insult as these conversations always do.
When I think of the number of non-Christians of any kind who come by and see how we behave, I am embarrassed.
That’s how I see it, too.
All Roman roads lead to Rome.
Asking nicely is not a demand.
I guess the robber I walk in on asking nicely for my wallet isn't making a demand.
It was designated Caucus. You should have shown my Caucus the same respect your Caucus expects.
(Was it 'Pulver' or 'Palmer'? Wait! I could start a thread about it!!)
But what if Catholics wants to comment on P6 aircraft in the context of Yukon relief missions?
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