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Posted on 01/02/2011 5:46:30 PM PST by Paragon Defender
That is an out right lie and mindreading and a personal attack.
I know what I believe and Who I believe in.
...just like the truths of the founding fathers of this great nation has been distorted
That's off topic, the constitution and other writings is/are quite clear.
so had the word of the Lord been distorted by your Tradition of men during the time of Constantine 325 AD
More personal attacks, it is not MY tradition of men. I don't follow Constantine or anything like that.
The Bible is complete and the inspired word of God.
If the English isn't clear to me, I look at the Hebrew and Greek.
Here is an example of the tradition of one man, Joseph Smith which I noticed you don't deny. Thank you for that.
there is more history on Constantine as most corrupt and murdering man yet you accept this Pagan version of the Nicene Creed!Christians do not need the Mormon Heavenly Father or the Mormon Jesus Christ:
JESUS CHRIST: The spirit of Jesus Christ was the first spirit born to God the Father (YOUR "Heavenly Father") and his wife (Heavenly Mother). He progressed to become a God under the Father. (The Father is also the literal father of Jesus' body in the exact same way we were begotten by our earthly parents.)That is the jesus of the LDS from their own writings.We believe in the Biblical Jesus Christ.
Please find where I have said that, or retract the statement. Thanks.
Thank you, I had one heck of a wrestling match going on in my mind for about a year when that came about.It really was quite a turmoil, abandoning all my childhood beliefs and expressing them to family.Sorta like being told to believe in Santa Claus as a small child and then realizing as you get older that it was just a fairy tale used as a control measure by parents. I wonder how many parents realize the damage they do with those stories. The boogie man was another corelated many times along with the devil. I really am a mixed bag of beliefs really but not of the conventional sort.The heaven and hell bit just doesn’t resonate with me as depicted in the bible.Probably the biggest factor was being told I HAD to believe and act in a certain way to attain happiness or burn in eternal damnation.It all started Back in the early 60’s, in grade school during bible study I had asked a simple question about prehistoric fossiles and why there was no mention about it in the bible. I was told they never existed, that it was made up, junk science inspired by the devil to lure one away from the bibles true teachings. As I got older I felt that I was again being lied to, again as a matter of someone else having control. Funny, I feel the same way about our goverment.
This is a big nation the Lord did not make it just for one kind of individuals thinking!
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Actually men did...James Madison’s thinking...
But whats the “nation” got to do with the nobility of the bereans...
See ???
There ya go again...
Bringing in a modern strawman...this time the US of 1776...
Lets go back again to the early years after 33...
Back when the only nation there was on this continent were the nations of the people who became known as “Indians” 500 years later...The people who had come over the land bridge from Asia...the only people living in North, South or Central America until the Vikings came here in 1,000 Eric the Red and Lief Ericsonn..and the white man came here in 1500 bringing with him the first tidings of great joy about Jesus and Christianity....no other people lived here...
Meanwhile back to the future to the areas where they spoke Greek...
Back to what is now the northern part of Greece...
To the ancient city of Berea where the inhabitants were known as “Bereans”...now that wasnt hard to figure out...
Luke tells us that Paul was impressed with the Bereans because they heard what he had to say and instead of just taking it at face value, or rejecting it out of hand, they searched the Jewish scriptures to see what the Old Testament prophets had to say about the Messiah...you know the real prophets...
because they were well veresed (Well aquainted with, they had read and re-read the same info that Paul was giving them)in the Jewish scriptures and they determined to check out what he was preaching...
So Paul said, “Hey these guys and girls or Berea are more noble than the Thessalonians”
Now if the people of the time period 1830-2011 were to also search the scriptures of the Old testament, plus now the available New when they came up against heresy like the book of mormon or the koran, and they wantyed to check, there would be few going after false pro[phets like Mohammmad and Joey Smith...
Of them Paul would say, “Besides the Bereans you too are noble”
and the checkers would just reject the blasphemmy of moprmonism...
why dont they ???
Well it seems Joey Smith and Briggie Young et all all the way down to Ask Tommy all know at least that ONE verse from the Bible and the implications for their fraud if anyone adheres to its instructions...
So the mormon members and those who are being set up to join are threatened with the label of “faithless” etc if they dare question any part of the fantasy that is mormonism...
Instead of being told to “search the scriptures” to see whether what Joey Smith had to say was right or WRONG, they are told to look for a physical and/or emotional indication that Joey Smith was right ONLY...an idgestion type feeling the mormons term a “burni9ng in the bosum”...a quick perursal of the scriptures would confirm that no such clarification is commanded by God...
Howeever the mormons demand it of the people they harass and attempt to force their false religion upon...
and what if the bad stomach bug feeling is not in evidence...the mormons have that covered...
its a lack of faith on the persons part and not any sign that the religion of mormonism that Joey Smith invented in opposition and to attack and replace Christianity just might possibly be FALSE...
While the Bereans were termed noble by God’s proven men, Paul and Luke, dont you think that God would expect us to take the wide open hint and check the scriptures for ourseves 2,000 years later if we have questions about what the blasphemer, unredeemed sinner and habitual criminal Joey Smith had to say ???
So today, Resty, why dontcha act noble ???
That post was your words to the Religion Moderator after he admonished you about posting personal to a post of mine.Now you further postulate your personal opinion of what I believe, and it is false again.
You assumed things not in reality and continue to push the distortion.
I am banking on the truth of the Holy Scriptures (to you a faulty foundation apparantly) and you twist it to a having to do with murderers and pagans.
That's sick and unacceptable, stop defending your personal attacks.
Thanks also to the internet there is more history on Joseph Smith as most corrupt and murdering man yet you accept this Pagan version of “christianity”
Continuing to make it clear who the Lord Jesus Christ is to Mormons:
JESUS CHRIST: The spirit of Jesus Christ was the first spirit born to God the Father ("Heavenly Father") and his wife (Heavenly Mother). He progressed to become a God under the Father. (The Father is also the literal father of Jesus' body in the exact same way we were begotten by our earthly parents.)The Jesus Christ of the Bible and mainstream Christianity is quite different.
Thanks also to the internet there is more history on Joseph Smith as most corrupt and murdering man yet you accept this Pagan version of “christianity”Thank you for that short and to the point refutation to restornu's attacks on Christianity and the Holy Bible..
This still is an open forum and the words I post defend the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Resty if you knew the LORD Jesus Christ
(I notice you are still copying my words...
but as they say imitation is a form of flattery so thank you I guess...)
If you knew the LORD Jesus Christ
(When I was a child all the Bibles I read had His name printed this way...LORD God, LORD Jesus Christ etc)
If you knew the LORD Jesus Christ, you would know that
]. He is God
2. He is the God of War...(a soldier, a warrier is well armed)
3. He is not a defenseless man...
4. He is not a helpless wimp...
5 He does not need to be defended or protected...
6. It is you who needs Him to defend you...
Yes, you've said it over and over and over again.
What you HAVEN'T done is explain away ALL of the writings and teachings of the MORMON religious Organization over the years that indicates the opposite.
I ordered a bagel...
There you go again!
Using SCRIPTURE that has NOT passed by Joseph Smith.
The Spirit of Apostacy lurks at your door!
Yup; RELIGION will do that to ya.
Go find JESUS on your own.
Even by reading the ENTIRE pantheon of MORMONic 'scriptures', one canNOT find the answer which we all seek:
"What did Joseph Smith LEARN to be UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism of his day?"
What TRUTH?
A letter from a mormon bishop informing the members that the “theme” for this year is “Making the Temple the Great Symbol of Our Faith.”
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well, now we know why the rabbit quickly lost the pancake.
Presbyterian elders await your advice...
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