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One Mediator Between God and Men: CHRIST JESUS
2010 | God's Word

Posted on 12/03/2010 4:14:50 PM PST by bibletruth

1 Timothy 2:5 ...one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

There is NO debate here: God's Word clearly points out who the mediator is between God and men: i.e., Christ Jesus

If you believe in God's Word, who is Christ Jesus: The Word of God, then 1 Timothy 2:5 will be easily be understood as Christ the mediator.


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: anticatholicrant; catholicbashing; christisking; christisthemediator; correctbibledoctrine; linguisticliteralist; manyintercessors; onemediator; truthfromgodsword; vanity; yopios
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To: Celtic Cross

T1? It’s hard to take them seriously.


681 posted on 12/06/2010 5:27:06 AM PST by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: Natural Law
U-2012>If the creator of the universe has a mother she is by definition a goddess.

That is only true if and only if we accept your ridiculously flawed deductive logic. It requires that we suspend belief in the Trinity and no actual Christian is going to do that.

Rejecting cogent argumentation because you spurn
the conclusion suggests other alternatives.

The usual suspects seem to have a habit of
supercilious disdain for the messenger.

However it does not change the results
of compelling argumentation.

May you seek the face of YHvH in His Holy Word.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
682 posted on 12/06/2010 6:55:28 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: presently no screen name

“do this in memory of me” Luke 22:19


683 posted on 12/06/2010 7:12:03 AM PST by coloradomomba (BO stinks!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Please, let's not play semantics.., I didn't mean mediator in that context. Mary was and is an example of Grace, that God chose her to bear the Christ makes her worthy of reverence and a model we aspire to exemplify, asking her for guidance and comfort is wrong? Catholics do not view the Virgin as God, we belive in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, but we would be ignorant not to look to Mary as worthy of imitation.
684 posted on 12/06/2010 7:22:03 AM PST by coloradomomba (BO stinks!)
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To: maryz; metmom
MM>It's not Christian. UriÂ’el-2012 is right. It is blasphemous.

UriÂ’el-2012 doesn't believe Christ is God. I guess you don't either. Actual Christians do.

Mary; dear:

First: Christ or Messiah is a job description not a last name.

Secondly: Your statement about me is a falsehood.

I'm not sure if you made it up out of whole cloth
or it was passed to you by one of the usual suspects.

It is falsehood; do not repeat it.

I wholly and sincerely believe that
Yah'shua contains the SHEKINAH.

He is also described by John as the Word of G-d.

I do not believe in:
two gods,
three gods,
four gods including a goddess
nor three gods and their mother.

As Yah'shua said:
Hear O Israel, YHvH our Elohim is one YHvH.

I and the father are one.

If you have seen me, you have seen the father

I pray that you seek the face of YHvH in His Holy Word.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
685 posted on 12/06/2010 7:49:27 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: coloradomomba; presently no screen name
“do this in memory of me” Luke 22:19

I believe Yah'shua was referring to
us celebrating Passover.

A clear reading of Holy Scriptures will show
that the "Last Supper"
Was in fact a Passover Seder.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
686 posted on 12/06/2010 8:04:44 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
I know that "Christ" is a title or description, not a name. I also see that you do not believe -- in the classic Christian sense -- that Christ is God. You apparently believe that the Presence of God dwells in Him, but not that He is God. You also apparently do not believe in the Trinity, the Triune God of Christian belief. I may indeed be confused about your views, but if you could try writing in plain old expository prose, there would be less room for confusion.
687 posted on 12/06/2010 8:11:31 AM PST by maryz
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"More’s the pity."

Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves - Philippians 2:3

688 posted on 12/06/2010 8:25:19 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: maryz
I know that "Christ" is a title or description, not a name. I also see that you do not believe -- in the classic Christian sense -- that Christ is God.

You have yet again demonstrated
your ignorance of the meaning of the word Christ.

It also demonstrates very sloppy theology.

To wit: christ is god.

G-d may have come as the Christ but
"christ" is not god.

You need to seek the face of YHvH in His Holy Word.

Reject the Pagan traditions of Constantine from Nicea.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
689 posted on 12/06/2010 8:29:27 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"Rejecting cogent argumentation because you spurn the conclusion suggests other alternatives."

I rejected the argument for multiple reasons. First is that it wasn't cogent. Second was that I do not accept the premise and am not willing to accept it even for rhetorical purpose. Third is that the conclusion is nothing more than an a priori supposition.

Your prose is overly verbose, the meter is more reminiscent of Dr. Seus than Scripture making your works look silly instead of inspired. And lastly, buy a vowel. Your manipulation of the English language as some kind of Old Testament loop hole is demeaning and ridiculous.

690 posted on 12/06/2010 8:37:57 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: maryz

You need to ask? Anyone familiar with scripture knows these are assigned to Christ. So what is your intent in asking?


691 posted on 12/06/2010 8:41:23 AM PST by caww
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To: Natural Law
U-2012>Rejecting cogent argumentation because you spurn the conclusion suggests other alternatives.

I rejected the argument for multiple reasons. First is that it wasn't cogent. Second was that I do not accept the premise and am not willing to accept it even for rhetorical purpose. Third is that the conclusion is nothing more than an a priori supposition.

Your prose is overly verbose, the meter is more reminiscent of Dr. Seus than Scripture making your works look silly instead of inspired. And lastly, buy a vowel. Your manipulation of the English language as some kind of Old Testament loop hole is demeaning and ridiculous.

Thank you for your considered comments and compliments.

If you do not accept the premise of Aristotelian discourse,
clearly we can not discuss even the daily weather.

Enjoy the wide road of life and all that it entails.

Clearly you reject the One True G-d: YHvH
of the Holy Scriptures and embrace
some other gospel and some other god.

Seek the face of YHvH in His Holy Word.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
692 posted on 12/06/2010 8:50:41 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"G-d may have come as the Christ but "christ" is not god."

Accept the Trinity or refrain from calling yourself Christian.

693 posted on 12/06/2010 8:52:52 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: caww

Those phrases? I don’t think so.


694 posted on 12/06/2010 8:54:22 AM PST by maryz
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"Clearly you reject the One True G-d: YHvH of the Holy Scriptures and embrace some other gospel and some other god."

You have said many erroneous and even stupid things on these forums, but that takes the cake.

695 posted on 12/06/2010 9:00:27 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; coloradomomba; presently no screen name
A clear reading of Holy Scriptures will show that the "Last Supper" Was in fact a Passover Seder.

I have no problem with that analogy.

“do this in memory of me” Luke 22:19
I believe Yah'shua was referring to us celebrating Passover.

This 'belief' is unfounded by the passage. In Luke 22 Jesus makes two very clear statements -

Luk 22:19 KJV - And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake [it], and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Luk 22:20 KJV - Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

He made specific statements that the emblems within the passover were reflecting His impending sacrifice as the true passover lamb - the shedding of His blood and the death of His body. ". . this do in remembrance of ME", not passover.

696 posted on 12/06/2010 9:04:03 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Natural Law
U-2012.Clearly you reject the One True G-d: YHvH of the Holy Scriptures and embrace some other gospel and some other god.

You have said many erroneous and even stupid things on these forums, but that takes the cake.

As usual YOU ARE MAKING IT PERSONAL.

I believe you have been reminded of the forum rules by the RM more than once.

I do not think that membership in the ROMAN "church" confers salvation.

I also do not think it should provide a pass for violation of forum rules.

Seek salvation from YHvH as it is spelled out in His Holy Word.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
697 posted on 12/06/2010 9:25:03 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: maryz
Ephesians 4:14-15 “We must no longer be children, tossed to and fro and blown about by every wind of doctrine, by people's trickery, by the craftiness and deceitful scheming. By speaking the truth in love we must grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ.”

The 'elemental spirits' are seen in various categories. Universal, earthy, spiritual in nature,....Astrology, magic, pagan worship, traditions of men, demonic influences and the like,... which were prevalent at the time of Collossians writing. But all point to “winds of doctrine” (see verse above)

698 posted on 12/06/2010 9:28:22 AM PST by caww
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To: Natural Law
U-2012>G-d may have come as the Christ but "christ" is not god.

Accept the Trinity or refrain from calling yourself Christian.

There were followers of the Messiah
long before the Paganism of the
ROMAN "church" following Nicea.

If you were not so ignorant of YHvH's
Holy Scriptures you would know that
there were many who were anointed
prior to the coming of Yah'shua

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
699 posted on 12/06/2010 9:35:33 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

If you have charity for other Christians, and you want to persuade them, using insulting terms for things they value is not the way to show it.


700 posted on 12/06/2010 9:35:37 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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