Posted on 10/24/2010 8:05:32 AM PDT by Colofornian
Joseph and Lucy Mack Smith. Both parents were poorly educated, very superstitious, and deeply involved in the occult (magic). The destitute Smith family moved frequently, with the mystical Joseph Sr. etching out a meager existence by farming, digging for buried treasure, and "water witching." When all else failed, he even attempted to mint his own money (a practice that was disliked by the local constabulary).
The Smith family had a reputation for low moral character. According to more than sixty affidavits signed by members of the community, "...we have no hesitation in saying, that we consider them destitute of moral character, which ought to entitle them to the confidence of the community. They were particularly famous for visionary projects, spent much of their time in digging for money which they pretended was hid in the earth;...Joseph Smith, Senior, and his son Joseph, were in particular, considered entirely destitute of moral character, and addicted to vicious habits." 1
Joseph, Jr. learned well from the poor examples shown by his parents. According to one acquaintance, "...his habits of exaggeration and untruthfulness...and by reason of the extravagances of his statement, his word was received with the least confidence by those who knew him best. He would utter the most palpable exaggeration or marvelous absurdity with the utmost apparent gravity." 2
Joseph Smith, Jr. spent his youth practicing what we know today to be witchcraft and occultism--drawing magic circles, crystal gazing (with his famous "peep stone"), water-witching, sacrificing animals to manipulate the spirits, enchantments, communication with familiar spirits (necromancy), and astrological magic talismans and swords.
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(1) Walter Martin, The Maze of Mormonism, 1983, p. 25 (from Mormonism Unvailed, E. D. Howe, 1834, p. 261) (2) Ibid. (from The Origin, Rise and Progress of Mormonism, Tucker, 1847, p. 16)
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Furthermore since you cannot point out their falsehoods yourself, you are the last one who should even begin to think of saying shame on anybody.
the purpose of life.
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Kid if you dont know by now that we were born to serve God...to worship the LORD Jesus Christ who is King of Kings and LORD of lords...
then you need to open the Christian Bible and read it...
I guess to keep it going we would have to every once in a while come in and post "boo!"...
FOCUS, kid...
Your question in #21 was
"Are Mormons political?"
I answered you in #51...
If you didnt want an answer you should not have asked the question...
If you dont like the answer...
Too bad..
Its the best you are going to get...
Unless one of my lovely Flying Inman friends has a better one...
I met LDS members when living in Murfreesboro, TN. They didnt curse, drink, smoke, always smiled, had positive things to say, prayed with me, and were good to my family.
Some of the nicest people Ive ever met.
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But probably on their way to Hell...
Courtesy PING to #80
You were mentioned there by another FReeper
but not pinged
The “nicest people niceness” was missing..
He left out the Mormon god’s father, and grand father and great grandfather and ... well, you get the picture.
and the Mommy godess, whats-her-name
4. Heavenly Mother, who used to be a woman, and now as a goddess, breeds with Heavenly Father to populate the earth.
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Oh AMPU did include the Mommy godess...
Sorry bout that
I met LDS members when living in Murfreesboro, TN. They didnt curse, drink, smoke, always smiled, had positive things to say, prayed with me, and were good to my family.
Some of the nicest people Ive ever met.
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But probably on their way to Hell...
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To me, one of the great absurdities of the anti-mormonism argument is how people whose lives are patterned after the teachings of Jesus Christ are on their way to the infernal realms for eternity.
We read in the Bible that God “will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath”(Romans 2, 6-8)
I will never believe that God is going to torture the souls of people for eternity who are kind and charitable, and whose lives are devoted to well doing.
Sorry for piling on; but I was way behind, it seems, in reading the thread.
The time delay between different posts can cause confusion, contention and/or frustration between posters at times; when, if we were all talking in real time, the problems would never come up.
He (?) is a MORMON; so the latter definitely applies.
Joseph Smith
Just another, though far more successful, form of British Israelism.
Can I just read my QUAD?
It has a LOT more stuff in it!
I KNOW it's true; for after carrying it around for a while I get this feeling in my chest...
--MormonDude(Why do you ANTIs fight so against the TRUTH?)
If you cannot turn to the original Hebrew for possible meanings, it is sometimes helpful to try other translations. It is interesting to note that the Prophet Joseph Smith recommended such possible study procedures. He said:
Our latitude and longitude can be determined in the original Hebrew with far greater accuracy than in the English version. There is a grand distinction between the actual meaning of the prophets and the present translation. (See Documentary History of the Church, vol, 5, pp. 33945.)
With reference to something of value noted in another translation of a part of the Bible, he once said:
I have an old edition of the New Testament in the Latin, Hebrew, German and Greek languages. I have been reading he German and find it to be the most nearly correct translation, and to correspond nearest to the revelations which God has given to me for the last fourteen years. (Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 614.)
From ---> http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=8003438d9b76b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD
I've met JW members when living in Indianapolis, IN
I've met Congress members when traveling in Washington, DC
I've met Buddhists when in the service in Thailand
I've met 'Witches' when TrickorTreating on Halloween
They didnt curse, drink, smoke, always smiled, had positive things to say...
I think he(?) could tell that I read them all anyway; even if I show up late in the thread.
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