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YOM KIPPUR: WHERE DO WE RECEIVE ATONEMENT TODAY?
Joel Rosenberg's Weblog ^ | September 17, 2010 | Joel Rosenberg

Posted on 09/18/2010 4:31:39 PM PDT by wmfights

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To: cherry
then they go ahead and sin more....like Clintoon....

And like you...And like me...Apparently the difference between you (Catholic) and me (non Catholic) is that I acknowledge that I sin and I always will sin until the Lord takes me home...Apparently y'all quit sinning at some point in time...Or, you just quit calling sin what it is...

often I see nondenominational Christians forgiving themselves...like those looney tv evangelist...openly crying on tv about asking God for forgiveness....

Apparently too, this is a foreign concept to you...That God forgives sin...You just posted that these people ask God to forgive their sins but you then say these people are forgiving themselves...

81 posted on 09/18/2010 7:14:30 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: wmfights
Sorry Joel, you missed the entire purpose of Yom Kippur. Because you, and others, are stuck in the paradigm of Replacement Theology (even if you may reject the "replacement" premise), you cannot understand the literal words... Yom HaKippurim is an ETERNAL statute...

This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: On the tenth day of the seventh month you must deny yourselves and not do any work—whether native-born or an alien living among you- because on this day atonement will be made for you, to cleanse you. Levitucs 16:29-30
82 posted on 09/18/2010 7:17:13 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Ann Archy

So the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross was not enough for you? ... His death was not enough to make you pure? You actually believe YOU can do something to make yourself pure?

The Bible teaches something totally different Ann ... you can receive total forgiveness, and you can have total assurance that you have eternal life ... no waiting until death to see if you made it.


83 posted on 09/18/2010 7:17:28 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: Boogieman; editor-surveyor
I guess God gave Peter a secret decoder ring, along with the keys to the Kingdom.

LOL, silly me I thought the Key to the Kingdom was faith in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and his sacrifice for me.

84 posted on 09/18/2010 7:18:25 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
With the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, all need for priests and a priestly class ended.

The priesthood was given to Aaron and his descendants FOREVER.
85 posted on 09/18/2010 7:18:47 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: dartuser

LOL!!!! It was the GATEWAY to heaven....one must still live by His Words and what He demanded that we do.


86 posted on 09/18/2010 7:20:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Hi Ann! You remind me of myself before I fell on my knees in tears over a friend not believing the same things I did. I thought he was going to hell, and just cried out my heart to God to teach ME the truth. I then opened my Bible and did a study on my own. I have never stopped searching the love letter of the Word of God for His wisdom. I do listen and read other’s works, but I always, always check my Bible for accuracy (reading the whole chapter and sometimes book) and I use different translations since I can’t read ancient Hebrew or Greek. God talks to our hearts through His word. Ask Him to talk to you and study His word. Enjoy!


87 posted on 09/18/2010 7:21:33 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Ann Archy

So you’re saying that “I am the door” didnt mean he was a door, but that His words were used symbolically to illustrate a point?

Hmm ... I think I get it ...


88 posted on 09/18/2010 7:23:32 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: huldah1776
I read the Bible every morning and I pray the Rosary and I go to Mass and receive Holy Communion every day. I think I'm on the right path...not perfect by any means, but folowing what HE taught us thru the Apostles 2000 years ago.

My religion started 2000 years ago.....these others stared 500 years ago or in the 1800's!! PLEASE!! A shadow of what the TRUE Religion is and what He taught us to do.

89 posted on 09/18/2010 7:25:12 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
Ditto, and I will Pray that one day you will be receiving HOLY COMMUNION, the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ!! There is NOTHING....NOTHING like it!!!

Been there, done that...And it was noticeably uneventful...Course that was before any one told me that that little cracker was actually Jesus Christ...Seems He would have revealed Himself to me...

I guess it's like when I take some cough syrup if someone comes up and says, hey, how do you like that chocolate eclair???

No, it's cough syrup...It looks, tastes, feels and sounds like cough syrup...It makes me sick to take it...

No...It's a chocolate eclair...That guy with the robe on told me so...And he wouldn't lie...

90 posted on 09/18/2010 7:25:26 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

OMG!! Don’t write me again...you are an apostate.....OUT!! I WILL pray for your soul, but dont’ come into my realm again.


91 posted on 09/18/2010 7:27:03 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

If what you believe or do is not in the Bible, then it is not 2000 years old. Study. Study. Don’t just read. Study. Come to dinner sometime when heaven and earth are one, okay?


92 posted on 09/18/2010 7:29:47 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Ann Archy
right.....no matter WHAT you do...KILL, STEAL....CHEAT...ADULTERER....yes, he paid for your sins so you don’t EVER have to...yeah....go sin as much as you want to,

That question was already answered by the Apostle Paul...You ever read it???

93 posted on 09/18/2010 7:33:02 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Tzfat
This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: On the tenth day of the seventh month you must deny yourselves and not do any work—whether native-born or an alien living among you- because on this day atonement will be made for you, to cleanse you. Levitucs 16:29-30

Doesn't this mean there has to be a Temple?

Lev. 16:32 And the priest, who is anointed and consecrated to minister as priest in his father's place, shall make atonement, and put on the linen clothes, the holy garments; (33)then he shall make atonement for the Holy Sanctuary, and he shall make atonement for the tabernacle of meeting and for the altar...

94 posted on 09/18/2010 7:34:16 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Iscool
"Are we to continue in sin so that grace may abound? May it never be!"

Romans 6:1,2

95 posted on 09/18/2010 7:37:47 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: SkyDancer

“until G-d brings an earthquake to Jerusalem and tumbles the Dome of the Rock so the Temple can be rebuilt, then .....”

Yes, exactly, until then.... what? The Lord may choose to be lenient and accept what can be given, but then again He may not. There is no surety in these rituals.


96 posted on 09/18/2010 7:38:58 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wmfights
“From what I can see it is a bad attempt to mimic Jewish religious practices. The altar is raised and separated from the congregation, similar to how the High Priests in the Temple were the only ones to go into the Holy of Holies. The priests are supposed to have special powers not so different than the priest making the sacrifice in the Temple. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ is recreated on a daily basis for the forgiveness of sins not so dissimilar than the Jewish practice in Yom Kippur which is done once a year.

What they have failed to see is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for us “finished it”. The Lord's Supper is our remembrance of that moment.”

Yes, I believe that is an accurate assessment ... incense is also used and of course there is Mary. They like to pray TO Mary. In fact anyone that is dead that Catholics like is prayed TO for help, wisdom etc..

I don't believe they understand that Mary was another sinner that needed Christ too! I see these as distractions to prevent them from having a personal relationship with Christ. Mary can't help them and can't hear them.

The Rosary is the Catholic way of praying to Jesus THROUGH Mary. It makes me wonder if they don't believe Christ has the maternal comfort they are looking for. He has all of that and created Mary as well. As Christians we should only be praying to the living God.

The Apostolic succession that Catholic claim is through Peter is just a control mechanism. I lost count of how many times, "it is written" is stated in the Bible. What we need to know is in there. The truth is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.

All we can do is pray FOR Catholics and hope they see the light. I believe God is merciful ... sometimes they do pray TO Christ, so perhaps we will see some in heaven too!

97 posted on 09/18/2010 7:39:06 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Ann Archy
OMG!! Don’t write me again...you are an apostate.....OUT!! I WILL pray for your soul, but dont’ come into my realm again.

You don't even know where your soul is going to end up...How are you going to effectively pray for me???

98 posted on 09/18/2010 7:42:53 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Boogieman

Vell, Until den, .... So, Nu? (In my best Yiddish G’ma voice)


99 posted on 09/18/2010 7:44:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Give Kids An Education, Take Them Out Of Government Schools" - and I'm still Molly Norris")
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To: nmh
They like to pray TO Mary. In fact anyone that is dead that Catholics like is prayed TO for help, wisdom etc..

I'm pretty sure there is nothing but condemnation for that kind of thing in Judaism. The Mary worship is like the pagan worship of the "queen of heaven".

The Apostolic succession that Catholic claim is through Peter is just a control mechanism. I lost count of how many times, "it is written" is stated in the Bible. What we need to know is in there. The truth is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Amen

All we can do is pray FOR Catholics and hope they see the light. I believe God is merciful ... sometimes they do pray TO Christ, so perhaps we will see some in heaven too!

Amen

100 posted on 09/18/2010 7:44:29 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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