People of faith working together.
Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock
I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.
I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.
But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.
I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!
A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."
I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."
I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?
And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."
God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).
Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.
So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.
Who cares. Bashing is bashing.
There weren’t Christians of all stripes, Jews, and Muslims on the stage with Beck? And in the crowd? Does anyone think any of those people were praying to someone elses God? This Reverend would not attend an event like The National Prayer Breakfast because he might be praying next a person praying to a God other than his own? Am I the only one who finds his attitude un-Christian?
That is an ignorant and an Un-Christian stance.
“You can’t dismiss Christianity with that trite of a sentence.”
I’m dismissing the poster with that sentence. I’m dismissing his attempt to make this about Beck and Mormonism and to cause a rift among conservatives. As I said, these posts have been happening a lot today. Playing right into the MSM agenda. I refuse to jump on their ‘Yeah, it was effective but Beck is a Mormon!’ bandwagon.
I DID NOT GIVE BECK A DIME...I DID NOT GO SATURDAY...YET I FEEL CLOSER TO GOD AND MY COUNTRY AFTER SATURDAY THEN I HAVE IN A LONG TIME...
whew...feeling better now. Thanks Beck...You done good by me.
Amen my Brother!
Sam Adams was a fool if he prayed to any man’s god, instead of Jehovah.
The Rabbi and the Imam are not trying to sell their religions as Christianity, Beck is doing a very good job of selling Mormonism to Christians as Christian as evidenced by this thread and others like it.
The Mormons are currently running a PR campaign selling Mormonism as Christian, and Mormon missionaries will be showing up at Christian homes capitalizing on this and selling Mormonism as Christian.
If I pray to a Cadillac but think Im praying to a Toyota...Im not praying to a Cadillac.
That's the same mentality that brought us a corrupt and worthless GOP.
To sum up...yes, I think he is on theologically shakey ground, but he is doing the job we all should have been doing, but didn't or couldn't. I say, even if I am sure I am more right, and even if the Bible agrees with me, it is not my job to judge the state of his soul, and he may come round. God's job. If some of you folks REALLY want to impress me, write a thank you letter to him, and AFTER you congratulate him, compose specific paragraphs on WHY you disagree with him. Kindly. Honestly. But do more than say, "we should walk away from the great message he passes, and the way he risked his life to stand in the breech while we sat in our nice, safe homes, because he's not hearing Jesus entirely clearly." Put your witness where your gripe is, kindly, and clearly. But thank the man first.
AMEN!!!
Sign me up for that because I ain't listening to jack that Beck says. His god is no more real than the god of the Muslims and I dang sure ain't listening to them either.
Becks jesus is the brother of Lucifer.
That ain’t my God.
Beck is the biggest breakthrough that Mormonism has ever had in reaching new converts, Beck is mainstreaming Mormonism and becoming the national leader of conservative Christians, he is becoming our national minister.
The division Beck is causing is having Christians step up in defense of Mormonism and against Christians that try to raise the flag of warning and awareness.
Did Jefferson as you to unite and pray to his god?
This should be enough for any self respecting Deity.
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