Posted on 08/29/2010 10:22:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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Can We Better Understand Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny
By Understanding What the Mormon Church Says About The Constitution, America, and the Last Days?
By Brannon S. Howse
www.worldviewweekend.com
Understanding the end-time beliefs of the Mormon Church and their view of America and the Constitution may help you understand "Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny". The guest on my radio program today was Ed Decker, a former Mormon for twenty years before becoming Christian. On the program I played sound bites of a speech given by Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson entitled "Our Divine Constitution" and Ed responds. Please remember that Glenn has said that he is a Mormon and to our knowledge has never publically renounced his Mormon religion.
Glenn Beck said on his TV program on August 26, 2010, that the event on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on Saturday, August 28, 2010, will not a political event. A few days before this Glenn said the event will not be a Christian event but a God event. What God are we talking about? Is Glenn acknowledging that it is indeed all about a spiritual agenda that has been well laid out by leading Mormon leaders including the now deceased President of the Mormon Church, Ezra Taft Benson? Glenn said that the money for this event was raised months ago. Did the Mormon Church assist in covering the costs for this event and if so for what purpose? Here are the sound bites we played on the radio program today from the speech given by Ezra Taft Benson.
Ezra Taft Benson: I reverence the Constitution of the United States as a sacred document. To me its words are akin to the revelations of God, for God has placed His stamp of approval upon it.
Brannon Howse: This is out right heresy! We are told in Deuteronomy 4:2 not to "add to the word which I commanded you, nor take from it." Saying the Constitution is "akin to the revelation of God" is adding to the Bible and is for sure lowering the supremacy of the Word of God and thus heresy. If the Constitution is akin to the Word of God, why has it been changed so many times?
Ezra Taft Benson: I have faith that the Constitution will be saved as prophesied by Joseph Smith….It will be saved by enlightened members of this Church-among others-men and women who understand and abide the principles of the Constitution.
Brannon Howse: It is the Mormon Church and "enlightened" Mormons that will save America? If America is to be saved it will not be by the false gospel and false Jesus of the Mormons following the principles of the Constitution that they have elevated to being equal to the words of God. 2 Chronicles 7:14 says that "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." Part of the wickedness America needs to turn from is following the Jesus of the cults or the Jesus of Oprah's New Age Movement. The very thing the Mormons are doing and many Christian Americans are following, will actually not reclaim America but bring God's judgment.
Ezra Taft Benson: Have we read The Federalist papers? Are we reading the Constitution and pondering it? Are we aware of its principles? Are we abiding by these principles and teaching them to others? Could we defend the Constitution? Can we recognize when a law is constitutionally unsound? Do we know what the prophets have said about the Constitution and the threats to it?
Brannon Howse: I am all for returning to the original intent of America's Founding Fathers but the cross is higher than the flag and the Word of God is above the Constitution. If we really want to defend a Constitutional Republic we must get back to the Word of God; not the Mormon Bible and Mormon teachings on end-time beliefs and building God's Kingdom on earth or the New Jerusalem in Independence, Missouri as they believe.
Ezra Taft Benson: We are fast approaching that moment prophesied by Joseph Smith when he said: "Even this nation will be on the very verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground, and when the Constitution is upon the brink of ruin, this people will be the staff upon which the nation shall lean, and they shall bear the Constitution away from the very verge of destruction" (19 July 1840, as recorded by Martha Jane Knowlton Coray; ms. in Church Historian's Office, Salt Lake City).
Brannon Howse: The Mormon Church, in recent years, has found itself in another public relations problem so Ed Decker says they have backed away from this belief. However, all Mormons know of this prophecy by Joseph Smith and believe the Mormon Church and its "enlightened members of this Church" will restore America's honor. Sound familiar? Is this the goal of Glenn Beck's restoring America's Honor rally? Is Glenn Beck part of this Mormon movement that will restore America and usher in the "Kingdom of God" on earth? What does Glenn Beck mean by God? Does Glenn reject the Mormon god that was a man of flesh and bone that evolved to be the God of this universe by living a good Mormon life? Does Glenn believe he can become a god with many goddess wives that will populate their own planet? Does Glenn believe that Jesus is the brother of Satan that was voted by a council to come to earth? By his own admission he has said that 80% of his life revolves around the Mormon Temple. Glenn owes it to all of us that have watched him to answer these questions particularly since Glenn has challenged the president to be public about his beliefs.
Ezra Taft Benson: Only in this foreordained land, under its God-inspired Constitution and the resulting environment of freedom, was it possible to have established the restored church. It is our responsibility to see that this freedom is perpetuated so that the Church may more easily flourish in the future. The Lord said, "Therefore, I, the Lord, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land" (D&C 98:6).
Brannon Howse: So in the end, the big push for returning to the founding principles is for the goal of the flourishing of the Mormon Church? How many people are aware of this ultimate goal? How many Americans want to live in a Mormon theocracy? Before you say they are not for a theocracy you had better read the "Law of Consecration" that Mormons swear to in the LDS temple ritual. Among other things, the officiator requests they swear to "consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you , to the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion."
Ezra Taft Benson: Our Father in Heaven planned the coming forth of the Founding Fathers and their form of government as the necessary great prologue leading to the restoration of the gospel. Recall what our Savior Jesus Christ said nearly two thousand years ago when He visited this promised land: "For it is wisdom in the Father that they should be established in this land, and be set up as a free people by the power of the Father, that these things might come forth" (3 Ne. 21:4). America, the land of liberty, was to be the Lord's latter-day base of operations for His restored church.
Brannon Howse: So the god of the Mormons, who was once a man of flesh and bone, planned America so the gospel of the Mormon Church could be restored? When did Jesus visit the promise land, which they call America? You will only find that in the Mormon Bible. Notice Taft is quoting from the Mormon Bible where they say that Jesus declared that America would become the "Lord's latter-day base of operations for His restored church."
If Glenn Beck's event on 8/27 and 8/28 are not political events but spiritual events don't you think people should be aware of the spiritual and political agenda of the Mormon Church that Glenn has said 80% of his life revolves around?
If Glenn said come to these two events to learn more about the Constitution of the United States which is equal to the inspired Word of God; how many Christians would still attend? Sadly, I believe most American Christians have the knowledge and Biblical discernment of a gnat and even if Glenn publically equated the Constitution as "akin to the revelations of God…" as did Ezra Taft Benson that they would still be at his beck and call because they are so hungry for a conservative leader and so eager to reclaim the founder's original intent. I believe many self-professing Christians will betray God's ordained Word which will surely guarantee that we do not reclaim America but that our destiny will be divine judgment. It appears to me that "Glenn Beck's Devine Destiny" is nothing more than a "divine" deception.
While I agree with you zeal against islam, because Beck/mormonism is trying to jump into this whole current populist uprising against progressive liberalism, I will stand back and judge those religio-political implications of mormonism current agressive political push.
Thank you for explaining this Godzilla....it is not hard to understand but in the push internationally and here in the states for “inclusion” of the faiths...and this with the feely touchy words of “peace. love charity hope etc.” It is all about making people “feel” good. ...and that is not the message of the Cross.....
So people will get on board this push because they can use it to escape their sin before our Holy God...this deception will make them feel better...unfortunately to their own peril. And yet the United States soverignity hangs in the balance still....no amount of unity of faiths is going to prevent the downfall we are experiencing until there is a push for all men to repent. I don’t see that is going to happen in mass...rather they will follow the piped-piper to a false sense of security and hope. The great deception.
Indeed.
Ninevah wasn’t spared by God because the people got all excited and decided to take their country back, they fell on their faces in sackcloth and ashes seeking God’s forgiveness. THEN God was moved.
I don’t think it’s appeasement by any means....it is however the push to align the primary religions..(where the money is) on an international level. The international community can never install an international government without funds going thru it....and replenishment of. Additionally how to get it from the sources where money travels most. The Mormon church is well known for it’s vast properties, business and otherwise...it’s investments and vast flow of monies thru their “rule” you must tithe 10%. Even Beck raised this at his event and again stressed today on his radio broadcast. When you see the membership of “organizations” (churches) who have people freely giving their wealth you can be sure the international community will go after that. Especially in light of the world markets etc.
Further the Islamic Temples/Minerets and the Mormons Temples..have very much in common...just in their archetecture....take a look at the new ones going up in the Middle East as “world faith buildings”...equipped with meeting places for Government officials. These are sky scraper buildings.
None of this can happen without weakening our country and uniting the religions here and worldwide. So if you can bring people together in a ‘Spiritual” sense....then the monies will flow....as will the powers. The Arabs have the oil...(Islam)....the US has the banks and internet....the Mormons have the property and business...and the political agenda.
Exactly...
Look at AA groups and self help groups....though on a much smaller scale if there is no repentance they go in circles and become dependant on the group....but when the Salvation message is included...lifes change..the circle is broken and Christ becomes their source.
It is the same for countries...the US has passed laws which fly in the face of a Holy God...he has been patient beyond understanding...but when ever a country stops seeking God and his ways...they are invaded. We are being invaded from within and without...and because our Government is so corrupt they not only leave the door open but are inviting them in and paying them for comming.
Government cannot stop this because they are the ones doing it....and the Islamic, Mormon, and all other Asian faiths are flooding in as well. Rather than fight these...we are trying to unite them...that is not Biblical in any sense...rather it comes from he who pushes the world to accomodate his one day man of the hour.
I believe more and more conversions to Christianity will continue to decrease and likely the believers will go underground at the rate things are happening ...
In Islam and Mormonism there is no freedom to NOT believe. Our colleges ligitimize Islam but deligitimize Christianity.
And the false security of inclusion of the faiths will ultimately be the downfall....there is no repentance today..rather...well enough .
Sounds about right. Of course, Glenn's group will have to give up coffee, tea, wine and allow their underwear to be chosen by "leaders".
Both are trying conversions, but one is politically backed (Islam) while the other is despised by both sides of the political spectrum (Mormonism). One has far more numerically in membership and wealth (people forget the wealthy sheiks in the Middle East or the merchants in Southeast Asia) 50,000 missionaries worldwide is small in comparison to the growth of Islam in America (100,000 to over 10 million). One at least receives a show of sympathy from politicians when some allegation comes of a koran or mosque being defiled, but no such sympathy comes for a Mormon, it’s a check against them becoming as arrogant as radical Islam. BTW, do you think the actions against polygamy in the 19th century humbled them to the will of the other Americans. My observation of Mormonism in this case shows that they possess very human fears such as being politically powerless or without wealth. They gave in when the rule of law was ultimately applied to them.
I would like to talk more, but other matters of life call my name, I would also like to refer you to post #46, some of the referenced people there give plenty of good reason why you have little reason to be afraid of the Church, based on how they are demographically, financially, and politically doing!
Don’t view them as being more powerful than they really are, this view is very self-defeating.
morph, I do have a very good feel for the spread of islam and the threat it poses.
I also have a very good knowledge of mormonism and if a prompter of mormonism starts ‘spirituality’ and America, I will pause and evaluate that.
You may discount the spiritual realm, I don’t and if mormonism starts driving our spiritual worldview, there will be very little left to resist islam with.
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