Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
INDEED.
Heading for bed.
God’s best to you and yours.
Interesting, I speak for myself -give my opinion premised alone upon my conscience -I do not address the "rabid clique" nor do I speak for a "rabid clique". MAYBE though I address a supposed "rabid clique" leader -one blinded by delusional grandeur? Is God proud of you today and looking without favor upon my humility? I do not know -nor do I pretend to know... I am not God, I am but a man -your brother in Christ...
Certainly Israel. It cannot be the Roman church, as it does not keep the commandments of God... And the Roman church has been the persecutor... more in the role of the dragon than the remnant of the woman...
Oh, good grief. That’s the kind of stuff that belongs in Know Nothing comic books.
I assume you are aware of Paul’s writing on Israel and the Church. Maybe not.
Ahh... so keeping the commandments of God is no big deal? The passage quoted specifically requires the keeping of the commandments as one of two parts describing the remnant of the seed of the woman. Wouldn't that be of particular interest?
You need to educate yourself on how the area of governance a cardinal exercises can be and usually is very LOCAL notwithstanding his position as cardinal.
Move to St Louis and you can can have plenty of them in your neighborhood.
Why do Presbyterians support the neo-Islamic theology of calvin. Do they also support the mosque at ground zero to promulgate this message of the prophet??
What’s being argued in your Presbyterian website is clear —> READ it — the pdf points out the various heresies that the Orthodox Presbyterians find in the OPC.
Lemme guess: “Worshiping Mary.”
Comic book stuff, and tiresome.
Look up the Sabbath Day, and the bit about graven images... and that's just in the "Big 10."
Rome does not keep the commandments of Yahweh.
For years, the neo-liberals andIn fact, this
their enablers have continually
pleaded for brotherly
love, understanding, and toleration,
while gaining evergreater
control. Today, neoliberals
and their enablers
clearly hold the upper hand.
Satan has won his war of attrition
against the one true
Gospel in the OPC (113).
The OPC long ago ceased to
proclaim the one true Gospel
to the exclusion of all false
gospels (115).
Former Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) ruling elder Paul M. Elliott says in this report
" If you are still in the Orthodox
Presbyterian Church—
whether you are a minister, elder,
deacon, or general member—
and you are still loyal to
the unique authority of God’s
Word, and to the one true Gospel
the Bible proclaims, then
it is time for you to “come out
from among them, and be
separate” (2 Corinthians 6:17)
(118, 119).
The Orthodox Presbyterian
Church has abandoned the
marks of a true church of
Jesus Christ (118).
Seventh Day Adventist much?
This book ought to be read by every member of the OPC, as well as by those in the Reformed community who still harbor the illusion that the OPC is a bulwark of orthodoxy.
The book is required reading also for all those in ecumenical relation with the OPC, thus making themselves responsible for the OPC’s sins.
Nope. Just reading the Word of God.
Christianity and Neo-Liberalism
The Spiritual Crisis in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and Beyond
by
Paul M. Elliott
The Trinity Foundation
This is a blockbuster of a book. One can only pray that its impact will, in God’s providence, live up to its potential. Not only is it well written, well researched, and well documented, but the author has a real sense of history, of church history that is. Back in the 1920’s, at the height of the fundamentalist-modernist controversy in the PCUSA, J. Gresham Machen, the leader of the conservatives wrote a book entitled, “Christianity and Liberalism.” In it he set forth and contrasted the theological beliefs of historic Christianity and of the liberals in the PCUSA. He convincingly argued the premise that liberals were not Christians and that modernism was another religion. Paul Elliott has taken that as his model and titled his book accordingly.
The author’s thesis is that the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) is today exactly where the PCUSA was back then.
In chapter 2, “The Marks of Neo-Liberalism” the author compares the tenets of the old
liberalism, (frequently as set forth by Machen, the founder of the OPC) with those of the current neo-liberals in the OPC. The comparison is enlightening and somewhat shocking.
Has the OPC really returned to its vomit?
Elliott goes on in chapter 4, “Embracing the Principles of the Auburn Affirmation,” to buttress his case.
Systematically he analyses the principles of the infamous Affirmation, the manifesto of the theological liberals in the old PCUSA, and demonstrates that the neo-liberals in the OPC are espousing identical principles. Again his documentation is thorough and the results are convincing.
Progressively he is building a damning indictment of the true state of the OPC.
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