Posted on 08/05/2010 4:42:27 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
Glenn Beck is one of the most popular political commentators in the United States. Between his TV show, and nationally syndicated talk-radio show, Beck reaches millions of Americans every day with his commentary about politics. Glenn Beck is also a convert to the Mormon faith, joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1999 along with his wife and children. However, his recent comments regarding God, salvation, and the Gospel on his TV show have caused some evangelical Christians to contemplate the salvation of Glenn Beck, even as a member of the Mormon Church.
We know that its the desire of political conservatives, constitutionalists, and Christians to take back America and stop the socialistic trends in this country. We are grateful for Glenn Beck and others like him who are standing behind the constitution and foundational basis of this country. Every evangelical Christian should support them in these goals. However, in sharing this common goal and desire we must be careful to not cross the line and become undiscerning in our theology and assessment of those who may only be masking as Evangelical Christians or transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ (2 Cor. 11:13-15).
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Glenn Beck is the best thing to happen to T.V. and America in a Long Long Time.
God Bless Him.
Harsh but true
Don't kid yourself and don't be fooled. Glen Beck's Mormonism is inextricably intertwined with his radio program. The day after he was baptized into his Mormon faith he received his big break with a phone call from New York that started it all. Was it divine providence??? coincidence??? or the well-connected Mormon Church making sure that he was fully committed to the fold before his media launch.
I agree. Glen has stated that he believes that Jesus is the Lord and Savior and he is proclaming with his mouth what he believes. That is exactly what Jesus said would lead to eternal salvation. What the church he belongs to is really irrelivant after that. If you believe that the church one belongs to is important, you may have fallen into the belief that your salvation depends on the collective salvation.
Where does the Bible tells us to walk blindly through life? The scriptures frequently tell us how to discern others. Jesus said, "You shall know them by their fruit." 1 John tells us to test all spirits to see if they are of God. I have no doubts that Christopher Hitchens is not saved.
Maybe, but not yet
I inspect any mention of Glenn Beck with a suspicious bent.
The reason I do this is because there is a concerted effort to discredit and demean Glenn Beck. This has its roots in the belief that discrediting the messenger will cause slow thinking people to discredit the message. I expect that effort to include attacks on Glenn Beck's religious beliefs.
That does not mean every mention of Glenn Beck is an attack but it does mean that each of us need be aware of the political agenda to discredit his message.
He is a baptized Catholic, but has currently abandoned his Catholicism to join his wife’s church. In my estimation he needs lots of prayers.
I had to stop watching him because I could see the Mormon point of view creeping into statements.
Just my opinion.
To answer your question Is Glenn Beck saved— NO and a dependency YES. No, because he is currently living a Mormon lifestyle. Dependency on the YES because of his initial Baptism into the Catholic Church. But the Catholic Church does not believe in “once saved, always saved.” People sin every day. Glenn Beck needs to sit down with a good Catholic priest and have a llllooooooooooooonnnngggg talk and get his thinking straightened out.
Now I have a question. If he were to leave the Mormon Church and go to another church — Catholic or Christian, I don’t think it would matter.....what happens to his standing with the Mormon Church and all the perks that go with it?
Not all FReepers have the same agenda.
To Betray you must first belong Harold Adrian Russell Philby, Harold Kim Philby, Soviet Spy.
Is this what you meant to say?
There are different denominations of Christians, but they all agree that Mormonism is not Christian, it is a totally different religion.
The trouble is that he does not belong to a Christian church, he left Christianity and joined a different religion.
As an example, here is the Catholic explanation of Mormonism. (From Catholic Answers)
Q: I read recently that the Catholic Church had rejected Mormon baptism, since their view of Christ and the Trinity is so unusual. But I have to ask: Are Mormons considered separated brothers and sisters? While their views are strange to say the least, they are still separated, and we should reach out to them. If we view them as something other than separated, doesn't that exclude ecumenism? I know that many view them as a cult, but aren't cult members separated as well?
Answer: The reason Mormons are not considered separated brethren is not because they aren't "separated" from the Church-they are-but they aren't "brethren" in the sense required.
The phrase separated brethren refers to those who, though separated from full communion with the Catholic Church, have been justified through baptism and are thus brethren in Christ. The Decree on Ecumenism (Unitatis Redintegratio) of Vatican II teaches that "all who have been justified by faith in baptism are members of Christ's body, and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church."
Because Mormonism is polytheistic and rejects the Trinity, Mormon baptism is not valid, and Mormons are not considered separated brethren. For the same reason, outreach to them, while certainly a good thing, is not ecumenism, though it can include dialogue and social cooperation as well as efforts to evangelize them.
Does Christ’s grace extend to Beck and other Mormons?
No wonder some atheists hate us Christians so. The pride and the arrogance of some who call themselves Christian is sad.
“Oh God, pride of man
broken in the dust again.”
- JP
What’s surprising to me is that this is the second Glen Beck/Mormon thread this morning and it hasn’t been littered with the usual interminable spam these threads receive; both threads have actually been readable.
George Noory, is that you?
More thinly veiled anti-Mormon propaganda yay! Welcome to the club Ig Fish.
http://en.fairmormon.org/Grace_and_works
Undecided readers,
As an ex Mormon-basher, I invite everyone to read all of the multitude of Anti-Mormon attack threads and/or comments on this board and then do some research on your own from more than one side of the “issues”.
Is what all these Mormon attack squad people parrot day in and and day out on these boards true? Don’t take their word for it. Find out for yourself. Put forth some effort. You do want the truth right? Prove it.
Read both sides! Talk to both sides! Not just mine. Not just theirs. Make up your own mind.
Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. The vast majority of the issues brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ I have found but here’s more.
http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/
Yes, I would love for him to come back to the Catholic Church. I do think that he might convert to a Christian denomination, though, if he does convert.
I understand that Beck became a Mormon at the urging of his wife. Go figure that one out.
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