Posted on 07/08/2010 7:33:11 PM PDT by lightman
Presbyterian leaders approve gay clergy policy
The change needs approval from a majority of the church's regional presbyteries to take effect.
By PATRICK CONDON Associated Press Updated: 07/08/2010 06:31:58 PM EDT
MINNEAPOLIS -- Leaders of the Presbyterian church have voted to allow non-celibate gays in committed relationships to serve as clergy.
Thursday's vote isn't a final stamp of approval for the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) or its more than 2 million members. But it's a step that could make the church one of the most gay-friendly major Christian denominations in the country.
Delegates voted during the church's general assembly in Minneapolis, with 53 percent approving the more liberal policy. A separate vote is expected later Thursday on whether to change the church's definition of marriage from between "a man and a woman" to between "two people."
But such changes would take effect only if approved by a majority of the church's 173 regional presbyteries.
Read more at http://www.pcusa.org/
Or they are reading an incomplete Bible. Books were purposefully omitted because of some of the verbiage.
And they thought people were leaving in big numbers before. Won’t be long before the sound of people will be replaced by the chirping of crickets...mixed with the sound of the post-menopausal warble of the lady preachers’ messages about hugging whales.
True, also the newer translations have changed wording to give a different meaning. That is one of many reasons I am a recovering Methodist.
Obama lovers to boot....
Are you talking about the translations in the Catholic Church that are slated for Advent of this year? Or some other translations?
Actually the new translations that we are getting are much closer to the original Greek and Latin. Catholics here on FR are happy about them.
I am refering to the translations the liberal Protestant Churches use. My Pastor has done some in depth comparisons, lots of things are changed.
That sounds good. But our pastors cannot do that. All the Readings and Gospels are set out in a three year cycle, even for the Daily Masses.
Mark
Matthew
Luke
John is thrown in for a lot of Gospels during the Easter season, although there are other times they appear also — especially for Daily Mass.
No changing out readings at all.
What Bible does your pastor work from?
sorry, I should have asked “What version does your pastor work from?”
The PCUSA ceased to be a true church a long time ago when it no longer recognized the Bible as the word of God. There are some Presbyterian denominations that have remained true to the Bible - the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and the Presbyterian Church in America, for example.
We go to an OPC church and our son-in-law is an OPC pastor.
Pinging Pan_Yan because I'm so excited about seeing whales in Alaska. When I take pictures of actual whales let me post them on the Whale War threads so that the haters know we actually do love whales, we just hate hippies :)
@ Pan_Yan when I get good pictures of all the whales we will show that FReepers love whales and FReepers can still hate Vegan hippies :)
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These kids don't know who bishop hanson is or the liberal agenda of the church and I don't know if I'm ready to move on to another church being single and 27. I feel like I owe it to the kids to stick it out and play keyboards with them and mentor them.
The ELCA church I belong to is the largest in the state of Illinois if I'm not mistaken, but there are some good people here. I completely disagree with the Sr. Pastor on faith and politics but I have his son as one of my employees at my store and I trust him completely.
So I'm stuck in a rut, what do I do???
For those that don't know me I am a right wing conservative Christian.
That egalitarian step has been considered.
Hot on the heels of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Americas decision to allow the appointment of non-celibate gays to the clergy, another prominent Christian denomination has decided this week to allow practicing drunkards in the pulpit.
Meeting in Las Vegas, leaders of the Evangelical Lukewarm Christians in Apostasy (ELCA-Not the Lutherans) voted in favor of giving their local congregations the authority to choose ministers or lay leaders who may be in lifelong, monogamous relationships with alcohol.
Said the denominations president, Ben Halifax, Since the Lutheran ELCA has courageously decided to ignore the condemnation of homosexuals in 1st Corinthians 6:9-10, we figured it was time for our own denomination to ignore the verses reference to drunkards and immediately loosen our outdated and unloving restrictions on boozehounds.
A motion to also include the acceptance of clerical fornicators, adulterers, idolators, thieves, revilers, and swindlers was tabled until next years meeting. . . . .
There is a political aspect to this. The ELCA is a left-wing political organization. Read the history of the National Council of Churches and you will see how they are purely political. This goes for the PCUSA, too. They are both beyond saving. Get out, now!!!
Well, they ARE gay ...
Leave, but only after explaining why.
You are not letting the kids down, the denomination is. Maybe your witness to the truth (calmly, with love) may inspire others to live their Christian faith better. Maybe others agree and just need you to speak up first. Or maybe they disagree and it will become clearer that there is nothing more you can do. If you find another church, there will be children there who need you, too. If you keep doing the music for the kids where you are and do not air your concerns appropriately, they will more likely grow up as mistaken as their parents.
Also, pray before you say anything, so your words will be Spirit-filled.
Best wishes.
There is something in the water up there!
“mixed with the sound of the post-menopausal warble of the lady preachers messages about hugging whales.”
Funny stuff I must admit.
What is happening to the Christian Church? This is unbelievable. Beware Christians, The Word of God is being twisted and stolen.
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