(Well, last time I looked, forever meant forever)
Silly ANTI!
You must have it confused with EVERLASTING!)Posted on 05/05/2010 8:06:26 PM PDT by Colofornian
PROVO, Utah -- The over-scheduled, over-involved and over-whelmed Mormon woman needs to do two things to de-stress, said two speakers at the recent Women's Conference at BYU: simply life and ask for God's help. "God placed us here to succeed," Sarah Westerberg said. "But mortality will cause stress. It's a natural byproduct."
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Her advice included...letting go of what cannot be controlled and ridding life of perfectionism.
She suggested adding two words to a working vocabulary: "Who cares?"
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(Excerpt) Read more at mormontimes.com ...
Let me guess...it was this conference that dumped Mitt Romney's book being #2 in the Deseret Book publisher list on April 21 and replaced it with the book, Women of the Book of Mormon a week later -- a book Deseret Book publishing bills as offering "new insights into the temporal and spiritual lives of our ancient sisters."
(Better believe they are "new"!!!)
Why is that? Well, to learn why, ya need to play, Book of Mormon Jeopardy on Women
Book of Mormon Jeopardy on Women
Time to hit the Jeopardy category of “Women in the Book of Mormon.” (For those who don't know "Jeopardy," the answer comes first)
Answer: 2%
Question: What % of the 250 or so characters in the Book of Mormon are female?
Answer: Once
Question: How many times are “sisters” even referenced in the Book of Mormon? [The only reference I've found is 2 Nephi 5:6 – and even then these sisters of Nephi are unnumbered & unnamed]
Answer: Sarai
Question: Who's the only wife mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?
Answer: Abish
Question: Who's the only daughter mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?
Answer: Don't Exist
Question: Who are the sisters mentioned by name in the Book of Mormon?
Now that we know the BoM marginalizes women, how can we tell if it trivializes women, too?
(1) Leading off the lineup of Mormon women, we have the unnamed daughter of Jared (Ether 8:8-12). What goes through her brain? Why she wants to dance before a man so that she'll seduce him into marrying him; then this household can properly commit patricide. Nice.
(2) There's an unnamed Lamanite queen in Alma 47:35. She's easy to defraud.
(3) There's another unnamed Lamanite queen in Alma 22:19-24. Let's see. This queen sees Aaron & servants @ foot of a dead king's bed. She jumps to wrongful conclusions. Then in all her decisiveness, she's going to massacre them for guilt-by-association. Then she started to back down from her heavy-handed executive authority. Why? Not because of justice, but because of fear – her servants were fearful. So she was, too (v. 21). Aaron, seeing that this woman was no match for kingdom authority, elected, instead to do the “easy thing.” And what was the easy thing in comparison to trying to deal with this queen? Why, he raised the king back from the dead (vv. 22-23).
(4) And since the book of Alma in the Book of Mormon seems to carry the predominant mention of women on behalf of the entire book, how do the earlier chapters introduce such women?
Here, read it yourself:
“And now, may the peace of God rest upon you, and upon your houses and lands, and upon your flocks and herds, and
[“and” = covering things you haven't yet covered...so what you seen the next line applies to what follows -- not what was preceding]
and all that you POSSESS, your women and your children,
according to your faith and good works,
from this time forth AND FOREVER
And thus I have spoken. Amen. (Alma 7:27)
(Well, last time I looked, forever meant forever)
Other than that, when women are mentioned in the Book of Mormon, they are good for toiling, spinning, working (Mosiah 10:5; Hel. 6:13) and having kids (1 Nephi 17:1), which the prestigious clans of the Book of Mormon were good at having by gobs of millions...supposedly.
And even when we get to the grandest of stories about women yanked out of the Bible, even Joseph can't get it quite exact. He references an unnamed virgin in 1 Nephi 11:18 -- who Smith identified as "the mother of God." Now the RC among us might say, "So?"
Well, the Book of Mormon "editors"...
...those who made almost 4,000 changes from the original Book of Mormon...
...(who'd have thunk that "the most correct book on earth" according to the Mormon angel would have need "editors"?)...
...then inserted the words "the Son of" into the text. Hmm. Those words -- were they there in the original gold inscribed text? Why did they add them? Why isn't there at least a footnote at the bottom of the Book of Mormon page saying, "Hey, we kind of added to the text here. Just wanted to let ya know."
(Teppe, poor assumption...though I am a descendent of an Lds polygamist leader in the church, I was NEVER a Mormon member...but what does that matter? Lds accuse ALL Christians of being "apostates" and descendents of "apostates" -- just like the Muslims accuse us of being "infidels"...[note the company you keep...Muslims say an "angel" appeared to Muhammad...and that Muhammad was even MORE like Joseph Smith's line of a poor, uneducated country boy...I mean Muhammad was illiterate!!!]
So, I appreciate the Mormon "apostate" accusation "show" you put on for all readers, lurkers, and FReepers! (I couldn't have scheduled a more timely appearance & comments:) So thanks!
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I prefer a woman of Proverbs 31 who is self determined and productive.
She also seems to be the boss of the house.
10Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
11The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
12She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
13She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
14She is like the merchants’ ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
15She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
16She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
17She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
18She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
19She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
20She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
21She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
23Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
24She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
25Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
26She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
27She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
28Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
29Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
30Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
31Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.
My apologies, at my poor choice of a joke. It was my understanding that much of your motivation for bringing up irrelevant news stories, such as the one in the beginning of this thread, was fueled by a personal feud from being a previous member.
But as I understand it .... you feel angry because I poked fun at you in a critisizing way??? Isn’t that pretty much what you were doing when you posted the leading article??
So, in otherwords ... it’s alright for you to attack other religous peoples motives for your entertainment ..... but it’s not OK for them to do that to you??
hmmm ......
Maybe if you don
Nope. Bad detergent and age of fabric.
...one other thought, if your “polygamist” ancestor is so odious to you .... than why would you belong to a religion which worships the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (two of the three are known polygamists).
Also, your comments were disingenuous, please show me where the LDS church accuses ALL Christians of being apostates? Did I miss that in Sunday School class?
Whatever it is you were trying to say, you've left a permanent impression.
Like that left by a 300 lb. woman after sitting an old leather couch.
Uhm, take a second husband....?
It might be appropriate, but given the title wouldn’t it be better if it were designated a “mormon caucus” thread?
Restornu: this thread is for YOU!
Not even THIS one??
Things Mormon women can do to reduce stress
UB: can we get an AMEN?
True; but I doubt if THAT article would make it into the MORMONtimes!
Or maybe it represents certain, ahem, talents.
But where does the "Word of Wisdom" come in on Brownies & Doughnuts, again?
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTSSECTION 89Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.1 A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of bconspiring men in the last days, I have cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.7 And, again, astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with aprudence and bthanksgiving.14 All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;15 And athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the adestroying angel shall bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.
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You must have it confused with EVERLASTING!)“God placed us here to succeed,”
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If the mormon god was really that interested in our success...
then why didnt he just leave us where we were successful ???
WHOOPS
I committed the ultimate thread hijack...
Interupting a loverly Elsiethon..
I didnt look before I typed...
Oh noez...
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Irrelevant?
Tell that to the Utah PROZAC distributor!
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