Lamh Foistenach Abu!
Posted on 04/28/2010 4:55:05 AM PDT by markomalley
The Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments is to issue its formal approval of the new English translation of the complete Roman Missal later today.
The recognitio comes after nearly ten years of study and sometimes difficult consultation over the new translation of prayers for the Mass.
Today’s development will therefore mark a key step, although when the new Missal will be made available in parishes remains unclear.
Cardinal George Pell, chairman of the Vox Clara Committee, the international group of bishops advising the Vatican about the translation, told the Register yesterday that although formal approval will be given today, the new Missal certainly won’t be available before 2011.
Advent next year is considered to be the most likely time, once various technical adjustments and printing are completed.
The International Commission for English in the Liturgy (ICEL) has been working in consultation with English-speaking episcopates worldwide to formulate a new translation in line with the 2001 Vatican document Liturgiam Authenticam, making the texts adhere more closely to their Latin original.
A Vatican statement released today said that the Holy Father is to have lunch this afternoon with members of the Vox Clara Committee in the prestigious Casina Pio IV villa in the Vatican Gardens.
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
As if there was any doubt considering how it came to be.
There must have been a “Brain Drain”in the Church lasting from Vatican II until the present. In the 1960’s the implementation from Latin to the vernacular was accomplished in a short period of time. First now, it suddenly requires ten years to perfect the former process. I wonder why this ten year period was necessary. If a hearing was scheduled to ascertain the answers,what Bishops and liberal clergy would be summoned to a hearing, similar to the Goldman Sachs hearings of yesterday, to answer the questions of the appointed faithful concerning this matter? Would Troutman withstand rigorous questioning?
Good news. I’d be interested to hear what the CDWDS did with some of the American bishops’ request for American exceptions, like keeping the “Christ has died, Christ is risen...” acclamation.
Maybe it's a lot harder to actually translate the Latin than it is to write a blandly worded paraphrase?
Praying that the U. S. Bishops obey and get it in the missalette’s ASAP!
I can’t wait!
Through My Fault, Through My Fault, Through My Most Grievous Fault .. strike breast 3 times.
Our pastor has been talking about some of the changes that are to come with the new translation for some time now, to get parishoners used to the idea. I think it’s safe to say he’s on board with it :)
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Through My Fault, Through My Fault, Through My Most Grievous Fault .. strike breast 3 times
And herein is the problem. This will make little difference to many people. Our parish has not used the confiteor even once for the three years or so that I have been there. All we get is some mushy sort of pablum like "Christ really loved people, Lord have mercy..." and so on. Good translations just don't matter here.
And our priest often uses other than the correct words for the prayers he is required to use. "This is the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the word. Happy are those who are called to his supper" becomes "This is Jesus Christ, who takes away the sin of the world. Happy are those who are called to this meal" or banquet, or whatever else may be preferred. The deacon makes up the dismissal, the choir sings very innovative and hardly even recognizable versions of the Gloria, Sanctus and Benedictus. The Agnus Dei is an absolute free for all. Even the Our Father gets a different treatment with new words. And this is so in every church in this town. In the fifteen or so years I have been in the Church in this diocese I have yet to see even one completely licit and correct Mass. Not one.
In the end this translation matters little to Cathlolics like myself, and I am confident that there are many such people. Why would anyone expect that people who feel absolutely no need to follow the texts we have now will suddenly change and tomorrow will read accurately what they have before them? The Bishops don't care, the Church doesn't care, and so nobody living in areas like this can expect any help for their situations. I would like to be excited about this, but I am not.
**The International Commission for English in the Liturgy (ICEL) has been working in consultation with English-speaking episcopates worldwide to formulate a new translation in line with the 2001 Vatican document Liturgiam Authenticam, making the texts adhere more closely to their Latin original.**
OH my! Let’s hope the ICEL is faithful to the Pope’s instructions! Praying so.
Catholic Ping!
**like keeping the “Christ has died, Christ is risen...” acclamation.**
Please, NO, NO, NO!
That’s good.
People will have to be instructed that this is not returning to the Old Mass, but updating the English language to be more in line with the liturgical norms for the rest of the world.
For example, the Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa never disappeared from foreign language Masses. Go figure????
I’d also like to see the Kyrie left without any impromptu additions.
Or even better, strictly in Latin. If Mister Mister can get the words right, anyone can.
My daughter was spouting that Latin when she was four.
So anybody have a suicide watch on Bp. “ineffable” Troutperson?
May I ask? What Diocese are you in?
Because that sounds like every mass in the Saginaw Diocese.
The Novus Ordo is misguided and accommodating to Lucifer’s desires to some degree no matter how many bandaids are stuck on it.
Let’s hope it coms with posture notations; (kneel, stand, kneel, sit, kneel, kneel, kneel you heathens, kneel). And maybe it will even include a few notes about not holding hands, clapping, or ballet dancing on the alter.
It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks
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