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To: NYer
Through My Fault, Through My Fault, Through My Most Grievous Fault .. strike breast 3 times

And herein is the problem. This will make little difference to many people. Our parish has not used the confiteor even once for the three years or so that I have been there. All we get is some mushy sort of pablum like "Christ really loved people, Lord have mercy..." and so on. Good translations just don't matter here.

And our priest often uses other than the correct words for the prayers he is required to use. "This is the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the word. Happy are those who are called to his supper" becomes "This is Jesus Christ, who takes away the sin of the world. Happy are those who are called to this meal" or banquet, or whatever else may be preferred. The deacon makes up the dismissal, the choir sings very innovative and hardly even recognizable versions of the Gloria, Sanctus and Benedictus. The Agnus Dei is an absolute free for all. Even the Our Father gets a different treatment with new words. And this is so in every church in this town. In the fifteen or so years I have been in the Church in this diocese I have yet to see even one completely licit and correct Mass. Not one.

In the end this translation matters little to Cathlolics like myself, and I am confident that there are many such people. Why would anyone expect that people who feel absolutely no need to follow the texts we have now will suddenly change and tomorrow will read accurately what they have before them? The Bishops don't care, the Church doesn't care, and so nobody living in areas like this can expect any help for their situations. I would like to be excited about this, but I am not.

11 posted on 04/28/2010 11:13:43 AM PDT by cothrige (Ego vero Evangelio non crederem, ni si me catholicae Ecclesiae commoveret auctoritas.)
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To: cothrige

May I ask? What Diocese are you in?

Because that sounds like every mass in the Saginaw Diocese.


17 posted on 04/28/2010 11:20:37 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: cothrige
And our priest often uses other than the correct words for the prayers he is required to use.

All the texts of the Mass - prayers, responses, Epistles, Gospel - must be according to the norms approved by the Church. Under no circumstances can anything be changed outside of the rules laid down by the Church. This is clearly stated, even in Vatican II!

Is Your Mass Valid? Liturgical Abuse .

I left a parish that used 'innovative' approaches such as the ones you describe. Now I practice my Catholic faith in an Eastern (Maronite Catholic) Church. Look around and ask our Lord to guide you to a holy priest and a reverent liturgy. He will not fail you.

21 posted on 04/28/2010 11:32:37 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: cothrige

The Agnus Dei at some of the more liberal churches of course is the English translation of Lamb of God. And then they proceed to sing 5 or 6 different verses of it, each different until they finally get around to the original 3 verses.


73 posted on 04/29/2010 6:43:21 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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