US Jewish leaders denounce Catholic sermon

AP ^ | 4/3/2010 | ERIC GORSKI

[Wontsubmit]

American Jewish leaders on Friday denounced a Vatican official's likening of anti-Catholicism during the church's escalating abuse crisis to "collective violence" against Jews, but predicted it would not deal a severe blow to the two faiths' often-strained relationship. "What a sad irony this would be on Good Friday, where so much of the anti-Semitism was brought about by the church against Jews," said Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "Anti-Semitism was pogroms, inquisitions, expulsions that led to death ... What a grotesque comparison." During a Good Friday sermon, Pope Benedict XVI's personal preacher compared accusations against the pope and the Catholic church in the abuse scandal to "collective violence" suffered by the Jews. The priest, the Rev. Raniero Cantalamessa, quoted a letter from a Jewish friend who wrote that the accusations reminded him of the "more shameful aspects of anti-Semitism."

[RegulatorCountry]

You’ve stated that his (?) beliefs are Gnostic. I have yet to see any indication of that, just a fairly zealous convert to Messianic Judaism. I realize that this is a controversial belief, and not just among Jews. But, I’ve seen no indication of any form of Gnosis.

So, you’re engaging in mind reading, unless you can point me to a specific set of replies that support your contention regarding the beliefs of another.

[Natural Law]

"But, I’ve seen no indication of any form of Gnosis."

The charge if Gnostic heresy is valid after a complete review of the posting history. Advocating that only through the special knowledge possessed by certain adherants enabled Salvation and all others, regardless of faith or deed were excluded meets the text book definition. But of course, I only have his posts, not his thoughts to assess. However, I do find it ironic that you are attempting to read my mind.

[RegulatorCountry]

I understand the meaning of the accusation, I just have seen no evidence provided to back up your accusation, Natural Law.

Show me how the poster in question has advocated Gnosticism. If you can, then you are not mind reading. If you can’t, then you are.

It’s really fairly simple and straightforward, no mind reading on my part necessary.

[lastchance]

ADL is as much a representative of the Jewish faith as Call to Action is to the Catholic faith.

[rrrod]

people arent buying this crap anymore....

[Natural Law]

"Show me how the poster in question has advocated Gnosticism."

What do you think the myriad of references to an "illuminated study" means?

[RegulatorCountry]

Point me to them, and let’s ask the poster in question, shall we?

[Uri’el-2012]

Attacking me, the Pope, and the Catholic Church does not allow you to jump the queue and move you closer to heaven. In fact just the opposite happens. You may believe that you have acquired a secret decoder ring that permits you and you alone to know the Word of God, but the simple truth is in the simplicity of Christ's message. We are all called to beatitude, not just the Jews, or the Christian-like cults that spring up claiming to be the elect. If we obey His two greatest commandments and live the beatitudes Salvation is ours. So going forward you would best serve God, Free Republic, and yourself by preceding your lunatic fringe theories of history and Catholic dogma with a simple disclaimer. Now please stop lurking and sniping on every thread that touches Catholicism and the Church and go bother someone else in God's name.

Anyone who thinks I am attacking anyone is
in serious need of Professional Help.

I have been discussing the Holy Scriptures you are unable to exegete.

I have been discussing the writings promulgated from the council of Nicea.

You are however correct in that the Pagan practice of celibacy has exploded
in serious charges of child abuse to the highest levels of power in the Roman "church"

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

WTH are you talking about....Jesus is the Messiah.....do you ever wonder why the Jewish people haven;t had a Prophet, let alone a Messiah in TWO THOUSAND YEARS???? Is he IGNORING His chosen people??? NO....He SENT HIS SON to Jews first, Gentiles and Greeks next.....why is this so hard to believe?? Has GOD IGNORED HIS CHOSEN FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS???

If you were familiar with Paul's writings to the Roman
believers you would realize that His Chosen People have been blinded
for two "days" to permit the gentiles to be grafted in to His Ekklesia.

Yah'shua spent two days in Samaria before returning to Galil.
If you are sensitive to Yah'shua's metaphors.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

But did not the same Paul said that Christ became our Paschel feast? Plus I will still call him Jesus, which means “savior”.

Yes you are correct in that Yah'shua is our Korban Pesach

Jesus in English from

Iesous in the Koine Greek from

Yah'shua in Hebrew;

They all mean

YHvH is my salvation

Which is why if you call on His Name, you will be saved.

Rom 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF YHvH WILL BE SAVED."

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Natural Law]

"I have been discussing the writings promulgated from the council of Nicea."

No you have been offering distortions and falsehoods written about the Council of Nicea. For years I have witnessed ever modern evil falsely blamed upon the Council of Nicea and the Catholic Church. I have witnessed every demonstrably false point of history, theology and language associated with the Council of Nicea and the Catholic Church. Clever phrasing, wrongly citing scripture, and ending accusations with a question mark does not diminish their qualifications as an attack.

Aren't you really angry that the Council of Nicea successfully suppressed the heresy of Gnosticism and preempted your presumed spiritual supremacy?

[Ann Archy]

Geesh...speak ENGLISH.

[Natural Law]

"Point me to them"

They exist in cyberspace for all to see.

[big'ol_freeper]

Feverishly scouring the Constitution for the right to not be offended...can’t find it.

[big'ol_freeper]

So much hate for Christ and His Church.

[narses]

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[big'ol_freeper]

RE: "My experience is that feeding the trolls never gets you anywhere."

Nor does stepping on a cockroach, but it's still is quite satisfying.

[Uri’el-2012]

Geesh...speak ENGLISH.

I was referring to John 4.

Starting at verse 1 through 54.

Especially verses 40 through 43.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Uri’el-2012]

So much hate for Christ and His Church.

you seem very confused.

Yah'shua did not charter a man made corporation.

Yah'shua's Ekklesia began in Deuteronomy 4:10

A study of the word "church", in the Koine Greek : Ekklesia.

Was the "church" started at the YHvH commanded
Feast day of Shavuot (pentecost) as some say ?

or

Did the "church" exist earlier ?

Using the LXX as a guide we see that the Ekklesia
is first used in Deuteronomy 4:10

NAsbU Deuteronomy 4:10 "Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God
at Horeb, when the LORD said to me, 'Assemble the people to Me, that I may let
them hear My words so they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on
the earth, and that they may teach their children.'

Also see : Deu 4:10, Deu 9:10, Deu 18:16, Deu 23:3, Deu 23:4, Deu 23:9, Deu 31:30,
Jos 9:2, Jda 20.2, Jda 21:5, Jda 21:8, Jdg 20:2 Jdg 21:5, Jdg 21:8, 1 Sa 17:47,
1 Sa 19:20, 1 Ki 8:14, 1 Ki 8:22, 1 Ki 8:55, 1 Ki 8:65, 1 Ch 13:2, 1 Ch 13:4, 1 Ch 28:2,
1 Ch 28:8

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Mikey_1962]

Chag Same’ach Pesach